Anavar

[t-dogg]

Hey guys. I tried using the search function and coming up with multi answers. What is the longest you can take anavar for? Also I know they say not to take more then 100mg a day, but is that something you should work up to or can you just start taking that much? I ask thes questions because I am interested is this steroid for cutting fat and it seems to be better/best for doing that?

[ochana25]

its the diet that cuts fat not the gear, its not a miracle drug

[t-dogg]

its the diet that cuts fat not the gear, its not a miracle drug

Didnt say it was a miracle drug... And I know diet is the big key but again different compounds aid better in cutting. Still would like answers on anavar please people.



What does everyone think of anavar compared to winny for cutting? I know winny doesnt cut fat, but helps tell your body to use fat for fuel instead or at least thats what Im reading.

[DrHealth]

It is all about losing body fat while keeping the muscle. All gear does that with some do an higher extent. Winny is harder on the body than Anavar. GH helps burn fat better than any gear. Are you eat clean?

[t-dogg]

Still wondering about anavar cycle and how much to take?

[gixxerboy1]

what are your stats?

[BJJ]

^^^
Exactly

[Gi812Many]

Agree with Gixxer....but as for 100mgs start off, you should be fine. I wouldn't do just Anavar by itself though. Maybe add a low dosage of Test to go with it, your shutting yourself down regardless. As for it cutting you up, again the only thing thats going to do that is your diet. Between Winny and Var, I say Var because I hate Winny...Feel terrible by the 6th week. Length you can take Var, I wouldn't go longer than 8 weeks.

[DrHealth]

There is only 3 orals that you cannot take past 8 weeks. A-bombs, Halotestin, & Methyltestosterone. D-bol is borderline. Anavar, T-bol can go 12 weeks no problem unless you're a heavy drinker. Winny is one of those taboo deals. It is kind of in the middle. Remember our bodies react different than others. It is a case of genetics and pre dispositions to medical conditions. Regarding Anavar, 40mg to 60mg spread through out the day is awesome. If you tolerate it you can do up to 100Mg. Tylenol which contains Acetaminophen is 100 TIMES WORSE than ANY ORAL steroid PERIOD! HANDS DOWN. Read the labels. You cannot take more than 5 tabs of tylenol in a day without SEVERE LIVER DAMAGE..................

[redz]

You cannot take more than 5 tabs of tylenol in a day without SEVERE LIVER DAMAGE..................

That is a false statement.......

[hsvcraig]

Hey dr health... You say turinabol is ok for longer lengths but dbol maybe not, I thought dbol and tbol had very similar sides and toxicity but minus the bloat on the dbol? Thanks mate

[Cravenmorehead]

How about TREN for fat burning?????........

[MakinItRain]

With var do you think its better to do say 90mg/day for 6 weeks or 70mg/day for 8 weeks...?

[formerly]

I did anavar for 5 weeks at 30mg/day. (if it really is anavar, I dont even know for sure.lol)

I went from training 2x/week(judo/boxing) to 5-6x/week. Still ate the same which was so-so for health.

I started at 181lbs. After the 5 weeks I ended up weighing in every morning anywhere from 171-173lbs. About a 9lb loss.

I have been off the anavar for about 3 weeks and just after finishing went back to 2x/week training.=( Upping it again now tho.

I still weigh in at 171lbs every morning.

No effect on libido. No sides. 1st week off I did have an old-fashioned lapse of paranoia.lol

42 yrs old.

edit. Oh yeah, I did have joint pain, which initially made me think winstrol!! but then again the reason I was only training 2x/wk prior was often due to the joint pain and figured turning it up to 5-6x/wk could have been the reason.

[Ashop]

Hey guys. I tried using the search function and coming up with multi answers. What is the longest you can take anavar for? Also I know they say not to take more then 100mg a day, but is that something you should work up to or can you just start taking that much? I ask thes questions because I am interested is this steroid for cutting fat and it seems to be better/best for doing that?

I like ANAVAR in longer cycles 8-12 weeks to get its best effect.

[t-dogg]

Thanks guys. Drinking isnt a issue seeing I dont. I only drink water and energy drinks. I normally drink at least 1gallon a day. I train 5-6days a week. I train in mma and weight train 4-5times a week.

So with that said can I take anavar for 12weeks at 100mg a day? Also If I was to use test also with that what would be a good dose for that with anavar?

Again thanks guys.



P.S what does in fat loss did you guys see from it?

[DrHealth]

That is a false statement.......

It is not a false statement. We have done extensive studies on the Dangers of Acetaminophen. Do your due diligence and see for yourself before you say something is false!

Acetaminophen Is Leading Cause of Acute Liver Failure

Liver toxicity from acetaminophen poisoning is by far the most common cause of acute
Liver failure in the United States, researchers reported.

Users of the popular painkiller who are most at risk include those with depression, chronic pain, alcohol/narcotic use, and those who take several acetaminophen-containing products at the same time, they added.

"Education of patients, physicians, and pharmacists to limit high-risk [acetaminophen] use settings is recommended," wrote Anne M. Larson, M.D., of the University of Washington, and colleagues at 21 other U.S. centers, in the De***ber issue of Hepatology.

Acetaminophen (Tylenol and generics) is widely available in over-the-counter preparations for headaches, colds, allergies, osteoarthritis, and other conditions.

The data suggest that consistent use of as little as 7.5 g/day of acetaminophen could lead to severe hepatic injury, Dr. Larson and colleagues wrote.

But in an accompanying editorial, John G. O'Grady, M.D., of the Institute of Liver Studies at King's College Hospital in London cautioned that there's no need for panic, because acetaminophen-associated liver toxicity is uncommon, and the drug itself is not toxic.

"Measures to minimize acetaminophen hepatotoxicity are important but need to be considered in the context that the apparent scale of the problem is a reflection of the huge number of patients taking acetaminophen with good effects and in the absence of any adverse event," Dr. O'Grady wrote.

"Educational initiatives to highlight the range of preparations containing acetaminophen, together with reiteration of advice on maximum daily dosing, have potential benefits, especially with respect to unintentional overdosing," he added.

Acetaminophen overdose -- anything more than the package-recommended 4 g/day -- has been associated with severe hepatic necrosis leading to acute liver failure. Some people deliberately take toxic doses in suicide attempts, but others may accumulate high levels of acetaminophen unintentionally when they take, for example, Tylenol for a headache and a second acetaminophen-containing product for cold symptoms.

Although N-acetylcysteine administered with 12 hours of ingestion of acetaminophen can prevent liver injury, many people may be unaware that they could benefit from it, Dr. Larson and colleagues wrote.

"Unintentional overdosing is usually only recognized after symptoms have developed. Extended acetaminophen dosing, delay in seeking medical attention, and/or failure to institute N-acetylcysteine therapy are associated with greater morbidity and mortality," they noted.

To determine whether people who inadvertently overdose on acetaminophen are at greater risk for bad outcomes, Dr. Larson and colleagues at 22 U.S. tertiary care centers examined the incidence, risk factors, and outcomes of acetaminophen-induced acute liver failure in consecutive patients seen over a six-year period.

They found that 662 patients met the established acute liver failure criteria of coagulopathy and encephalopathy, and that 42% of these patients (275) had liver failure associated with acetaminophen liver injury.

They also noted that the annual percentage of acetaminophen-related failures rose during the study period. Acute liver failure related to use of the painkiller accounted for 28% of all cases in 1998, and 51% in 2003.

The median dose ingested by participants in the study was 24 g (range 1.2-180 g). The 24 g dose is the equivalent of 48 extra-strength tablets, the authors noted.

Suicide attempts accounted for 122 of the 275 cases (44%), unintentional overdoses accounted for 131 (48%) of the cases, and the remaining 22 (8%) were of unknown intent.

Among those who didn't intend to overdose, 38% had taken two or more acetaminophen-containing products simultaneously, and 63% used narcotic-containing compounds such as Percocet (acetaminophen and oxycodone) or Vicodin (acetaminophen and hydrocodone).

Eighty-one percent of patients in this group reported taking an acetaminophen and/or other analgesics for acute or chronic pain syndromes.

"Overall, 178 subjects (65%) survived, 74 (27%) died without transplantation, and 23 subjects (8%) underwent liver transplantation; 71% were alive at three weeks," the investigators wrote.

Both the transplant-free survival rate and rate of liver transplantation were similar between intentional and unintentional overdoses.

Both the study authors and editorialist suggested that a strategy restricting but not banning over-the-counter sales of acetaminophen containing medications may be necessary to prevent accidental overdoses.

"This approach was taken in the United Kingdom in 1998, when over-the-counter sales of acetaminophen were restricted to 16 g," he wrote. "In the four years following the change in legislation there was a 30% reduction in patients with severe acetaminophen-induced acute liver failure admitted to specialist liver units and liver transplant centers."

In France, where only half that much acetaminophen can be bought at one time "this measure is highly effective in minimizing severe acetaminophen hepatotoxicity," Dr. O'Grady added.



Primary source: Hepatology
Source reference:
Larson AM et al Acetaminophen-Induced Acute Liver Failure: Results a United States Multicenter, Prospective Study. HEPATOLOGY 2005;42:1364-1372.

Here is the link....

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Psychiatry/Depression/2233

[gats0101]

Typically any oral cycle is not run more than 6 weeks, sometimes some of the more experienced guys will run longer oral cycles but you don't hear about it very often and its not suggested without regular blood tests to check liver values. Do more searches on anavr cycles to see what other people have had good results with. 100mgs for 12 weeks is a long time and an expensive cycle. Its all in the diet no matter if you are tyring to bulk or cut.

[DrHealth]

Hey dr health... You say turinabol is ok for longer lengths but dbol maybe not, I thought dbol and tbol had very similar sides and toxicity but minus the bloat on the dbol? Thanks mate

Tell that one to the East Germans who used it for YEARS not weeks YEARS! Also without giving up any professional athletes and fighters T-bol is the choice for most anaerobic athletes. For the sake of the HIPAA Privacy Rules I cannot disclose cases or names but certain "pro athletes" use T-bol for either bulking or cutting cycles. Most run it for 12 weeks with no issues. Again if you don't have any pre dispose liver issues and you plan on eating clean you should be fine. Steroids don't kill people. Stupid people kill themselves with abuse. Less is best!!! P.S. Their Liver Values in the subjects that were taking t-bol were slightly higher and return to normal range after the discontinued use. IMO 30mg to 50mg is about the range. I wouldn't go past 70mg. Wicked back pumps. FROM EXPERIENCE....

[DrHealth]

Thanks guys. Drinking isnt a issue seeing I dont. I only drink water and energy drinks. I normally drink at least 1gallon a day. I train 5-6days a week. I train in mma and weight train 4-5times a week.

So with that said can I take anavar for 12weeks at 100mg a day? Also If I was to use test also with that what would be a good dose for that with anavar?

Again thanks guys.



P.S what does in fat loss did you guys see from it?

100Mg of Anavar is overkill. 40 to 60mg's is more fitting for what you're looking to do. If your anavar is real quality grade, you don't need a lot. On the test it depends on if you like EOD to Every 3rd Day. Prop is fitting for most fighters. Again everyone is different and they react differently. IMO Prop with anavar would be great. Hgh or Sermorelin would also be a great addition. What is your over all goal?

[t-dogg]

100Mg of Anavar is overkill. 40 to 60mg's is more fitting for what you're looking to do. If your anavar is real quality grade, you don't need a lot. On the test it depends on if you like EOD to Every 3rd Day. Prop is fitting for most fighters. Again everyone is different and they react differently. IMO Prop with anavar would be great. Hgh or Sermorelin would also be a great addition. What is your over all goal?

I would like to be right at 185lbs and stay around 10%bf. I keep reading that anavar really helps in the lower ab section and thats my spot Im having trouble with.


Why do you rec test prop over say test e?

[DrHealth]

I would like to be right at 185lbs and stay around 10%bf. I keep reading that anavar really helps in the lower ab section and thats my spot Im having trouble with.


Why do you rec test prop over say test e?

Testosterone is Testosterone. Test Prop is faster acting and Test E is longer acting. In other words you have to inject every other day on prop for consistent blood levels of prop while you can get away with one shot per week with Test E. Some prefer to shoot Test E every 3rd day. With test prop you hold less water than Test E however some people react differently. If this is your first cycle then Test E or Prop with Anavar will be a great one. Your first cycle is always your best so make it count. I was fortunate enough to be a pro athlete and my guys are ifbb pro card BB's. Well it doesn't hurt going to med school either lol. If I told you my first cycle most of the quote on quote experts would crucify me. I did quite well and maintained a lot of muscle afterwards. Please remember less is best. Don't take Grams of test and 30 iu's of Hgh. You don't need that much to grow and get stronger. Food and Sleep are your biggest components. Gear helps you recover faster so you can hit it again. Another thing. Cardio is key!!! The heart is a MUSCLE exercise it. Don't listen to these idiots who do not believe in Cardio. Body build with intelligence and look at the long term goals instead of the short term.

[formerly]

Interesting about the acetominophen DrHealth. Thanks.

[t-dogg]

Testosterone is Testosterone. Test Prop is faster acting and Test E is longer acting. In other words you have to inject every other day on prop for consistent blood levels of prop while you can get away with one shot per week with Test E. Some prefer to shoot Test E every 3rd day. With test prop you hold less water than Test E however some people react differently. If this is your first cycle then Test E or Prop with Anavar will be a great one. Your first cycle is always your best so make it count. I was fortunate enough to be a pro athlete and my guys are ifbb pro card BB's. Well it doesn't hurt going to med school either lol. If I told you my first cycle most of the quote on quote experts would crucify me. I did quite well and maintained a lot of muscle afterwards. Please remember less is best. Don't take Grams of test and 30 iu's of Hgh. You don't need that much to grow and get stronger. Food and Sleep are your biggest components. Gear helps you recover faster so you can hit it again. Another thing. Cardio is key!!! The heart is a MUSCLE exercise it. Don't listen to these idiots who do not believe in Cardio. Body build with intelligence and look at the long term goals instead of the short term.

Thanks. This will end up being my second cycle once I finish this one. I wasnt looking to gain alot of weight approx 15lbs was it. I have 5lbs to go and Ill be there. Training in mma I do ALOT of cardio. Plus the days I also go to lift I do 30 to 60mins of cardio on the tread mill. Im using test E at 400mg for 12weeks, this is week 7 now. Im holding little to no water and strengh gains have went throught the roof, even better cardio. And knock on wood Ive had no side effects really, again knock on wood lol.


This cycle I feel has went good so far I guess. I did have a bad start tho. The first four weeks of it I did fight off a skin infection and then I hurt my back training. Ive recovered and started making leaps and bounds improvements.

So how much Test E with anavar would you take? And for how long?