HELP, What steroid should i use????

**ericgillen** · 11-08-2011, 05:11 PM

hey guys i am new to this site..... i need help on deciding which steroid should i use and how much of it do i use. i am 18, 5'11 and 210 lbs. max bench 220, max squat 315. Thanks a lot.

**The Bear 79** · 11-08-2011, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by ericgillen

hey guys i am new to this site..... i need help on deciding which steroid should i use and how much of it do i use. i am 18, 5'11 and 210 lbs. max bench 220, max squat 315. Thanks a lot.

U shouldn't use ANY steroids @ 18 yrs old. There is a significant risk of doing damage 2 ur undeveloped Endocrine / HPTA. Y do u think u need gear any way? Judging by ur stats, it looks like ur doin alrite. Wuts ur BF%?

**Nofinshline** · 11-08-2011, 05:45 PM

None Bro!!! train and grow natural all you can!!! there'll be plenty of time later in your life to get on the juice... oh how I wish I knew then what I know now.... take care.

**Ashop** · 11-08-2011, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by ericgillen

hey guys i am new to this site..... i need help on deciding which steroid should i use and how much of it do i use. i am 18, 5'11 and 210 lbs. max bench 220, max squat 315. Thanks a lot.

Use your own natural testosterone production to your advantage,,,at 18 its roaring high and you dont need any AAS.

**tobetutz** · 11-08-2011, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by ****

Use your own natural testosterone production to your advantage,,,at 18 its roaring high and you dont need any AAS.

Listen bro, you do not need to use any gear! Your natural test should be throught the roof. Look into the diet section and post up your diet. Do a lot of reading and stay anabolic not catabolic!

**3863** · 11-08-2011, 07:14 PM

Agree with all of the above.

Unless you're serious with bb'ing, dont use until you're mid 20's.

**stpete** · 11-08-2011, 07:31 PM

Sound advice by all and i totally agree! You've got a ton inside you at 18. Use it.

**ericgillen** · 11-08-2011, 07:55 PM

my bf% is 22, im an offensive linemen and im considered pretty small for my position, the reason i think i need gear because it will help me pack on weight, last off season i was 190 lbs and i got up to 215 lbs and i had my diet down, ate like a horse and lifted 5 maybe 6 times a week. i want to play college ball and i wont be able to play my position with how i am now. im done growing because i got an x-ray on my knee and my growth plates were closed. so im not worried if i gear that it will stunt my growth.

**gixxerboy1** · 11-08-2011, 07:57 PM

its not a matter of stunting your growth. Your endocrine system isnt fully developed. You can damage that and screw your hormones up for life

**gixxerboy1** · 11-08-2011, 07:58 PM

honestly you need to train different. If your 210 lbs benching 220 and are training 5 to 6 days you are doing something wrong.

**ericgillen** · 11-08-2011, 08:03 PM

yeah your rite.. is there anything else you recomend like supplement wise? i have been taking protein shakes, pre workout drinks, vitamins everything. i just cant seem to get the gains i want, especially cuz i work my ass off, i think if i were to juice i wouldnt abuse it, i would want to take low dosages. you think taking low dosages could still screw me up?

**gixxerboy1** · 11-08-2011, 08:06 PM

yes. and at 18 your test is high naturally.
Whats your diet look like for a typical day and you work out

**ericgillen** · 11-08-2011, 08:26 PM

i tried posting a link with my diet but the website dosent allow you to so if theres anyway else i can send you my diet let me know but my diet seems to be great i eat 6-8 times a day. and i would have 3 protein shakes a day. and workout goes i do a variety of things, one of my coaches is a trainer at a gym he trained brian cushing at his gym so his workouts are different every time. and the link i showed you, i workout their when i'm not with my team and we do a lot of band and chain work with benching and stuff. workouts are hard.

usually

Monday- Upper Body

Bench Press – 5 sets – 6 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps, 2 reps
Incline Bench Press – 5 sets – 8 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps
Standing Push Press – 4 sets -6 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps
Bent Over Rows – 4 sets – all 6 reps
Skull Crushers – 3 sets – all 6 reps
Standing Dumbbell Curls- 4 sets – 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps
Dumbbell Shrugs – 4 sets - failure
Tuesday – lower body/abs

Hang Clean – 4 sets – 6 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps, 2 reps
Squat – 5 sets - 6 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps, 2 reps
Dead Lift – 5 sets – 8 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps
Front Squat – 4 sets – 6 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps
Lunges – 3 sets – 8 reps
Leg Curls – 4 sets – 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps
Behind the Neck Barbell Calf Raises – 4 sets – 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps
Calf Raises against the Wall Using Bodyweight as Only Resistance – 3 sets- failure
Weighted V crunch – 3 sets – all 10 reps
Trunk Twist – 2 sets – failure
Weighted Decline Crunch – 4 sets – 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps
Wednesday – off

Thursday- Upper Body Day #2

Incline Dumbbell Press – 5 sets – 10 reps, 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps
Bench Press – 5 sets - 10 reps, 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps
Seated Military Press – 4 sets – 6 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps
Lat pull downs to front – 3 sets – all 6 reps
Pull-ups – 5 sets – failure
Close Grip Bench Press – 4 sets – 6 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps, 2 reps
Weighted Dips – 4 sets – 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps
Barbell Curls – 4 sets - 10 reps, 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps
Friday – Lower Body Day #2

Traditional Power Clean – 4 sets – 6 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps,
Snatch – 4 sets – 4 reps, 4 reps, 3 reps, 2 reps
Box Squat – 5 sets – 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps
Dead Lift – 3 sets – 8 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps
Leg Extensions – 4 sets – 10 reps, 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps
Barbell Calve Raises – 3 sets – 10 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps
Weighted Leg Lifts – 4 sets – all 8 reps
Trunk Twist – 1 set – failure
Medicine Ball Sit Ups – 4 sets – 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps, 6 reps

thats not my exact workout but its kind of like that

**gixxerboy1** · 11-08-2011, 08:36 PM

you def need to change that.
I would head to the training section on here.
I would scrap that whole workout

**ericgillen** · 11-08-2011, 08:39 PM

alright, you have any recomendations with supplements i should take?

**gixxerboy1** · 11-08-2011, 08:41 PM

protein shakes are fine. Try and type your diet in.
I'm not big on supps personally.

**ericgillen** · 11-08-2011, 08:44 PM

"www.varsityhousegym.com/html/downloads.html"

**ericgillen** · 11-08-2011, 08:45 PM

go to that link and then click the download thats the last one on the right
thats basiclly what i have been doing

**gixxerboy1** · 11-08-2011, 08:52 PM

needs more food and less shakes. it has a total of 12 ounces of meat all day. I eat more then that in 2 meals.

THe meals should all be closer to what dinner looks like.

**ericgillen** · 11-08-2011, 08:55 PM

ok thanks a lot man, you really helped me out. is their any perticular workout you think works best?

**ThatAthlete82** · 11-08-2011, 11:14 PM

double post

**ThatAthlete82** · 11-08-2011, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by ericgillen

my bf% is 22, im an offensive linemen and im considered pretty small for my position, the reason i think i need gear because it will help me pack on weight, last off season i was 190 lbs and i got up to 215 lbs and i had my diet down, ate like a horse and lifted 5 maybe 6 times a week. i want to play college ball and i wont be able to play my position with how i am now. im done growing because i got an x-ray on my knee and my growth plates were closed. so im not worried if i gear that it will stunt my growth.

I'm sorry but at 5'11'' your frame won't let you get to the size needed to play O-line(even with AAS) in college, at least at a legit school. Hate to be so harsh, but I'd hate to see you use steroids and not be able to get a stiffy the rest of your life because of a largely unattainable dream.