Asian brother needs new Recipe or/and advice!

[ohayoo22]

hey guys.

to all my asian brother out there, or any1 can help lol

so, you may have guessed that im asian. chinese 100% i'm really having a hard time to put on muscle.
im on my 2nd cycle now 10th week on testoviron depot 250mg and deca 200mg 2mls of each per week. and the 1st one was on sus, tran and prop.

untill this day,i haven't seen much difference or gains. the 1st cycle i was eating low carbs hi protein now im eating alot more carbs but clean.

what am i doing wrong? is there a special stack for asians? lol

sts
1.82
19%
2years
5-6days per week
87kgs

thanks alot for your help.

ohayoo22

[Crest]

When you say eating a lot more carbs and high protein, how Much exactly? What do your meals consist of and when do you eat? Also what is your training split like? How much weight have you gained on this cycle so far?

[The Bear 79]

hey guys.

to all my asian brother out there, or any1 can help lol

so, you may have guessed that im asian. chinese 100% i'm really having a hard time to put on muscle.
im on my 2nd cycle now 10th week on testoviron depot 250mg and deca 200mg 2mls of each per week. and the 1st one was on sus, tran and prop.

untill this day,i haven't seen much difference or gains. the 1st cycle i was eating low carbs hi protein now im eating alot more carbs but clean.

what am i doing wrong? is there a special stack for asians? lol

sts
1.82
19%
2years
5-6days per week
87kgs

thanks alot for your help.

ohayoo22

Well as England sed, let's hav a look @ ur diet & training to c if we can figure out the root of ur plateau. Curious..............y did u run Sust. & Prop. 2gether in ur 1st cycle?

[ohayoo22]

food: about 40/40/20. brakfast 10 egg whites 50gs oats in water. gym 45mins - 1hr, shack, then eat red chiekcn or tuna with rice or. rest of the day i eat meals with in every 3-4hrs along with snacks of nuts, yogt etc... shack around 3pm. dinner red meat and vegi then around 10pm shack b4 bed. sleep for 8hrs and do it all over again.

gains: maybe 1kgs. started 86kgs.

thanks

ohayoo22

[The Bear 79]

food: about 40/40/20. brakfast 10 egg whites 50gs oats in water. gym 45mins - 1hr, shack, then eat red chiekcn or tuna with rice or. rest of the day i eat meals with in every 3-4hrs along with snacks of nuts, yogt etc... shack around 3pm. dinner red meat and vegi then around 10pm shack b4 bed. sleep for 8hrs and do it all over again.

gains: maybe 1kgs. started 86kgs.

thanks

ohayoo22

OK, u only gav a sliver of the info that was asked 4..............

[ohayoo22]

Bear,
yeah i did, sus 2per week, tran prop every other day coz i didnt really want to have the water blow look.

work out: 1st cylce i did alot more cardio at the same time but now almost no cardio just to see what will happen.

thanks ohayoo22

[The Bear 79]

Bear,
yeah i did, sus 2per week, tran prop every other day coz i didnt really want to have the water blow look.

work out: 1st cylce i did alot more cardio at the same time but now almost no cardio just to see what will happen.

thanks ohayoo22

[ohayoo22]

OK, u only gav a sliver of the info that was asked 4..............

im not sure what else you wanted to know....

[ohayoo22]

you asked me y i did sus and prop and my training... so i replied.

[The Bear 79]

"Last time u did mor cardio than this time"................................that tells me nothing bout ur training. U ran 2 different Test compounds becuz "u didn't want to hav the water blow look"........................that makes no sense bro.

[The Bear 79]

food: about 40/40/20. brakfast 10 egg whites 50gs oats in water. gym 45mins - 1hr, shack, then eat red chiekcn or tuna with rice or. rest of the day i eat meals with in every 3-4hrs along with snacks of nuts, yogt etc... shack around 3pm. dinner red meat and vegi then around 10pm shack b4 bed. sleep for 8hrs and do it all over again.

gains: maybe 1kgs. started 86kgs.

thanks

ohayoo22

Based on this post, I can say with almost 100% certainty, ur routine (both diet & training) is wrong 4 gaining mass. I would still like 2 c a detailed breakdown of ur daily intake & ur training regime.

[ohayoo22]

ok. my training now is muh the same as last time but almost out cardio. i do 4 sets 12, 10, 8, 8 reps while going up in weight. eg: chest i did tonight, start with dbs flat 25kg/12 30kg/10 then 35kgs/8/8 reps, then incline 25kg 27 and 30kgs then decline about the same. btw my chest is weak due to my dislocation shoulder.

well know i understand alot more now then b4. i should have stay with the sust and cut with short ester but all said and done.

thanks ohayoo22

[ohayoo22]

7:30am:

250ml egg white

40-50gm multigrain oats with half T-spoon honey or nutella

1 pack multivitamin

1 caps krill fish oil



8:30am:

45min Work-out

2 scoops amino acid (during work-out)



9:30am:

2 scoops protein



10 - 10:30:

No fat yogurt



11:00am:

200gm chicken or tuna and half cup brown rice



1:30pm:

200gm tuna or chicken and half cup brown rice and salad



2:30pm:

1 scoop protein



4pm:

200gm chicken or red meat and sweet potato or brown rice



6pm:

200gm red meat and half plat of steamed veggies



8:30 - 9pm:

2 caps fish oil

40-50gm multigrain oats



10:30pm:

1 scoop casein protein



Fruit and nuts will be nibbled on through the day

thanks ohayoo22

[Times Roman]

hey guys.

to all my asian brother out there, or any1 can help lol

so, you may have guessed that im asian. chinese 100% i'm really having a hard time to put on muscle.
im on my 2nd cycle now 10th week on testoviron depot 250mg and deca 200mg 2mls of each per week. and the 1st one was on sus, tran and prop.

untill this day,i haven't seen much difference or gains. the 1st cycle i was eating low carbs hi protein now im eating alot more carbs but clean.

what am i doing wrong? is there a special stack for asians? lol

sts
1.82
19%
2years
5-6days per week
87kgs

thanks alot for your help.

ohayoo22

hmmmm....
well, i'd like to add that the genetic difference between humans and baboons is about .2%
another way of saying this is that we have 99.8% of our DNA in common.

the difference between human and human, only other difference being race, would be so small to be "negligable"

i'm guessing between white boy (me) and asian (you) the difference would be something like 0.000000002% difference, since we could probably trace back a common ancestor to 10 or 20 thousand years max!

the reason i take the time to say all this, is that, basically all the races are the same, and therefore, stacks should not be based on race.
Should actually be based on lifting experience, cycle experience, age, weight, height, bf%, these types of things...

Cheers!
---Roman

[ohayoo22]

To me, I'm doing everything right and giving 100% that's y te only thing i can think of is race. I must say my experience is not a lot but I'm alway learning..

Thanks ohayoo22

[sizzlechest]

It could be your supplements, where do you get them from and where are they made? Also, the quality of the AAS and your low dose could have something to have with it. You can try some Dbol or oxy and see if you get any gains. Even tough gainers gain on Dbol.

[Bonaparte]

Yes, you need Chinadrol, the only AAS that works for Chinese men.







































Are you ****ing serious??!!!

[ohayoo22]

It could be your supplements, where do you get them from and where are they made? Also, the quality of the AAS and your low dose could have something to have with it. You can try some Dbol or oxy and see if you get any gains. Even tough gainers gain on Dbol.

i got them of a mate his looking good and working well. heres a photo...

not 100% where its from (its not like i can go in to shop and buy them) but i just have to trust a mate.

yeah im thinking of geting some dbols but i only have like 2weeks left but maybe for next time.

[ohayoo22]

Yes, you need Chinadrol, the only AAS that works for Chinese men


Are you ****ing serious??!!!

LOL! look! im just asking if theres a better mix or way. im doing everything 100% to the T i dont know what else i can do. that y im here

[Dr Pepper]

LOL! look! im just asking if theres a better mix or way. im doing everything 100% to the T i dont know what else i can do. that y im here

If you were doing everything to the T you wouldn't have a problem. Steriods isn't your problem. Diet is...

[ohayoo22]

If you were doing everything to the T you wouldn't have a problem. Steriods isn't your problem. Diet is...

ok. as you can see iv put up my diet plan... what am i doing wrong?

thanks ohayoo22

[Dr Pepper]

What's your macro split? Pro/fat/carb/cals

[ohayoo22]

something like 40/40/20 about 4000cals perday

[cro]

you dont even know if your gear is real.

[ohayoo22]

how do you know your gear is real!? you just have to trust source. its not like you can get them any 7/11

[Dr Pepper]

something like 40/40/20 about 4000cals perday

Like I said diet is your problem. List your diet with individual macros for each meal and will see we're your at?

[mirin_serratus]

less muscle more iq fair trade id say

[spiketannin]

less muscle more iq fair trade id say

lol zyzz is still takin over i see.. all these usernames now that end with brah and now this mirin serratus.. lol that video was funy tho

[Times Roman]

Guys
I get the impression this aint a troll, but a member with a legit question.

Soooo..... getting back on track.

To answer your question, i think If you posted your diet in the diet section, there are a host of lads that will pick your diet apart. I usually do my analytics with an excel spread sheet, and loath calculating things by hand and a piece of paper. You say a 40/40/20 split with 4k/cals/day. Are you sure or are you just guessing? it looks light to me, but I too am just eyeballing it.

If you follow this link in the nutrution section, it is devoted to the issue you pose.... "how to bulk"
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...nd-sample-diet...

and if you follow this link also in the nutrution sectiuon, it is devoted to individuals such as yourself, called... "Hardgainers..."
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ight-READ-THIS!!!

the four pillars to growth are diet, exercise, rest, and knowledge. We have already discussed diet. Next comes exercise.

you really should go over to the exercise section and read the section called "How to grow" here...
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...nes-for-Growth

after you have digested all that knowledge, then create your own lifting routine, and then post it in the exercise section for the lads over there to look at for improvement opportunities.

Finally, there is knowledge. When i was younger, and especially before the internet, I lifted like a fiend, with only marginal results. Come to find out, I had a couple of serious flaws.... I was overtraining, and didn't pay enough attention to my legs. AND I didn't allow proper rest!!! Once I corrected those huge flaws, then I started seeing better results from all the effort.

I suspect you too are probably not doing something correctly. Won't know what it is until you do everything I just told you.

So hop to it my Chinese friend!
And I wish you luck!
---Roman