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    Running My FIRST CYCLE: could use some advice please!

    Hey everyone. I'm 6'0 185 and about 9% body fat. I'm 20 years old (don't hate on the age, just help please), just started my first cycle this past Thursday and did my second injection just this morning.

    I'm running 500mg Test Cyp/week....pretty standard from what I researched.

    I also have Anavar on hand, enough to run 50mg everyday for 8 weeks.

    My main goal in all this is to add around 12-15 pounds of solid muscle and get some strength gains that I haven't seen before (never ran a PH before, was natty up til this past week).

    My question is, would it be stupid to take the anavar from weeks 4-12 (I've been under the impression that Test stays in your system for another 2 weeks when your done injecting so thats why I would start it then). Would this keep me at a low bf by doing this and avoid the bloat that test can give you?

    I appreciate the help in advance. Thank you.

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    And yes, I have nolva/clomid on hand and ready to use as a PCT

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    U should stop NOW b4 u do potentially irreversible damage 2 ur undeveloped Endocrine / HPTA.

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    you may not want to hear it Momento buy your way too young to start AS, try Food gym and rest!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whey2Anabolic View Post
    Yay!! Finally a 20 year old. Dont hate people im 21.. Started taking steroids at 20.. Lol old people are boring.

    This is my 4th cycle to cut up for a show... Yes who knew after my third id get huge enough to compete .
    Im 101 kg.. My abs show and symmetric... And lost 4 kg.. Im pretty much super lean. Anyhows.

    Id take 300 test then if you'd like go up to 400.. Yes all the old people will say either dont use or 400 waay too much. Their right, i went up to 1000 on my third.. And to be totally honest. 400 is more than enough. Id also run Deca with it . If your using anavar which i am.. Dont.. You need atleast 100mg a day for it to work properly if at all, which im using now but literally run deca you'll get waay better gains . But thats only a fraction of it. Its all diet diet diet diet diet.. And i stress diet. Thats the only way i got huge.. Well massive for 20-21 . Eat clean, brown rice, breads and meats. You'll do great .
    I call BS on the 1000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whey2Anabolic View Post
    Yay!! Finally a 20 year old. Dont hate people im 21.. Started taking steroids at 20.. Lol old people are boring.

    This is my 4th cycle to cut up for a show... Yes who knew after my third id get huge enough to compete .
    Im 101 kg.. My abs show and symmetric... And lost 4 kg.. Im pretty much super lean. Anyhows.

    Id take 300 test then if you'd like go up to 400.. Yes all the old people will say either dont use or 400 waay too much. Their right, i went up to 1000 on my third.. And to be totally honest. 400 is more than enough. Id also run Deca with it . If your using anavar which i am.. Dont.. You need atleast 100mg a day for it to work properly if at all, which im using now but literally run deca you'll get waay better gains . But thats only a fraction of it. Its all diet diet diet diet diet.. And i stress diet. Thats the only way i got huge.. Well massive for 20-21 . Eat clean, brown rice, breads and meats. You'll do great .
    Ur cocky inexperience is gona get some 1 hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whey2Anabolic View Post
    Yay!! Finally a 20 year old. Dont hate people im 21.. Started taking steroids at 20.. Lol old people are boring.

    This is my 4th cycle to cut up for a show... Yes who knew after my third id get huge enough to compete .
    Im 101 kg.. My abs show and symmetric... And lost 4 kg.. Im pretty much super lean. Anyhows.

    Id take 300 test then if you'd like go up to 400.. Yes all the old people will say either dont use or 400 waay too much. Their right, i went up to 1000 on my third.. And to be totally honest. 400 is more than enough. Id also run Deca with it . If your using anavar which i am.. Dont.. You need atleast 100mg a day for it to work properly if at all, which im using now but literally run deca you'll get waay better gains . But thats only a fraction of it. Its all diet diet diet diet diet.. And i stress diet. Thats the only way i got huge.. Well massive for 20-21 . Eat clean, brown rice, breads and meats. You'll do great .
    No it's not, u used steroids coupled with diet 2 get "huge" & I'll bet anything, u hav 2 keep cycling 2 stay "huge"......................... u couldn't maintain natty.

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    relax the bear79, its not gonna kill the kid to to just anavar at a low dosage.

    but bear is right, you are quite young and your receptors are still sensitive, you still have a lot natural hormones being produced at higher dosages. anavar was first made for college football players who wanted to compete at the next level. running just var for now might be your solution bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Schwagger View Post
    relax the bear79, its not gonna kill the kid to to just anavar at a low dosage.

    but bear is right, you are quite young and your receptors are still sensitive, you still have a lot natural hormones being produced at higher dosages. anavar was first made for college football players who wanted to compete at the next level. running just var for now might be your solution bro
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    @Momento. Bro, no one here is gonna give you cycle advice because of your age. Nobody wants to contribute to a young person messing themselves up. You got a wealth of information that you can go through and read but advice may not flow in like how you would like. There are other forums out there where they dont care how old you are and can openly discuss this but then again you may not be getting the best information... good luck to you whether you continue or not.

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    this one should be locked!!!

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    I understand you wanting to give life's experiences but you need to look at all the young guys looking for any reason to do a cycle cause its cool and their buddies are doing it. You have chosen a different road and willing to take the risk of messing up your own endocrine system for the rest of your life. That's your choice. But most on this forum do not offer or suggest steroid usage under the age of 25. Not flaming you just letting you know.

    but please offer proper suggestions or critique and stay away from getting into it with others

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whey2Anabolic View Post
    Im being bullied
    Quit whining. Ur not being bullied, when someone as dangerously inexperienced as u comes through & undermines the good advice & efforts of mor experienced members, ur gona get negative attention. And just cuz u went through & deleted ur posts, doesn't all of a sudden mak u the innocent victim, Admin / Mod, can recover ur true posts with all the cussing & name calling & bad / dangerous advice u posted. Any way, I do apologize for making fun of u in post #14 & I hav deleted it. AAS r dangerous enuf as it is, please don't mak them mor dangerous with bad advice, or condoning & promoting use by som1 that shouldn't b using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whey2Anabolic
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    lol... thought you had to be 18 to register here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Schwagger View Post
    relax the bear79, its not gonna kill the kid to to just anavar at a low dosage.

    but bear is right, you are quite young and your receptors are still sensitive, you still have a lot natural hormones being produced at higher dosages. anavar was first made for college football players who wanted to compete at the next level. running just var for now might be your solution bro
    incorrect...

    "The drug was prescribed to promote muscle regrowth in disorders which cause involuntary weight loss"

    running a low dose (10mg) probably will NOT shut you down, however....

    "It also does not significantly influence the body's normal testosterone production (HPTA axis) at low dosages (10 mg). When dosages are high, the human body reacts by reducing the production of LH (luteinizing hormone), thinking endogenous testosterone production is too high; this in turn eliminates further stimulation of Leydig cells in the testicles, causing testicular atrophy (shrinking). Oxandrolone used in a dose of 80 mg/day suppressed endogenous testosterone by 67% after 12 weeks of therapy"

    Conclusion: Running var at a high enough dose as OP is considering to gain muscle and reduce BF WILL shut him down, causing testicular shrinkage (not as much as test) and will potentially cause harm to the endocrine system.
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