Felt great on winstrol

**Todd the truth** · 11-23-2011, 01:58 PM

Last 2 years I have generally been a moody miserable asshole. Last June I took six weeks of winstrol 25mg a day with some test gel.

The winstrol made me feel absolutely wonderful great mood, happy I stopped the winstrol due to shoulder pain, but I had great results.

I'm gonna start a test cyp only cycle in
A few weeks, do you guys think the cyp is gonna make me feel as good as the winstrol? Test level was 640 before starting winstrol.

If the test does improve my mood I'm gonna go on a trt dose.

**streeter** · 11-23-2011, 04:12 PM

You may feel better on the winny and test but with your level at 640 in my opinion you should feel normal. What you felt was above normal is it worth going on TRT for life to go from 640 to maybe 700 if your doc lets you go that high? Maybe you have already hurt your own natural production have you done Blood work since you did the winny and test gel?

This is just one rookies opinion and believe me the pro's will correct me if I am wrong but when I went on HRT for life my total test was 189 at age 45. I would be happy with 640. I have always thought screw the doctors tables that say anything over 250 or 300 was normal I always believe quality of life begins at 600 your at 640 was that early in the morning or late in the day? If it was in the early morning then maybe you would benifit from TRT but if not I again think thats not a bad score for natural production.

If you just want that extra great feeling you had you can't do winny forever ya know. Maybe you should get another full panel BW done with thyroid etc.. and talk to your doctor about it. I would try to put off sticking yourself for life as long as possible. How old are you?

**Todd the truth** · 11-23-2011, 04:56 PM

38 years old, BW was first thing in the morning

**streeter** · 11-23-2011, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Todd the truth

38 years old, BW was first thing in the morning

IMO your probably a borderline candidate for HRT. I don't know if you really need to go on it yet and I would urge you to really think about it since it's for life. Keep an eye on your levels probably by 40 or 45 you will need it like I did. Also since that BW was before you messed with Androgel and winny if you feel worse now than before you started you probably harmed your natural levels. Did you do a PCT if not thats why you feel like crap and it might be too late now you may have to go on HRT I would get BW done again.

**Todd the truth** · 11-23-2011, 09:19 PM

Yes I half assed the PCT, was sluggish for a bit but labido, workout, everything is back to where it was pre-cycle. It's not like I was a nice guy then did a cycle and became miserable. I was an asshole before and after but not during! I'm gonna get another set of labs and see what's going on not gonna start anything until after the holidays anyway.

**Todd the truth** · 11-23-2011, 09:20 PM

Just out of curiosity these young 'jersey shore' wanna-be types, do they have any chance of producing their own testosterone anymore ?

**streeter** · 11-23-2011, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Todd the truth

Just out of curiosity these young 'jersey shore' wanna-be types, do they have any chance of producing their own testosterone anymore ?

LOL I have never watched that show, sorry I am 46 years old and those shows don't entertain me but I have heard of it. As far as your question I guess as long as they do a good PCT and don't do crazy long cycles I suppose they can. HCG would help if they did a long cycle.