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    hextech is offline New Member
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    Question Bulking Cycle, need review and advices

    Hi, im new on the forums so ill tell you about my stats first:

    age: 28
    weight: 105 kg
    hight: 183cm
    fat %: just above 10%, 2 upper abs visible
    been lifting weights for ~10 years
    currently working out with a 2 split, push/pull days
    done 3 previous cycles


    The cycle im considering (this will be my third cycle)

    medicament____________________ __________week
    cycle:
    800 mg Test Enanthate EW_________________ 1-18
    500 mg Deca Decanoate EW________________ 1-16

    PCT:
    250 iu HCG ed____________________________ 18-20
    20mg Nolvadex______________________ ______21-26


    some questions:
    1. do it absolutely need to run a anti estrogen component under the cycle? Last time i used test+deca i used 12,5mg Aromasin ed, but unless i feel soreness in nippels, do i need this? I am considering running 25mg Aromasin ed week 1-20.

    2. Also considering 4 first weeks using 50mg Dianabol oral ed. What are the thoughts on this?

    3. And finally, will using vitamin b-6 at 200mg ed throut the cycle have a positive effect?

    4. Any other suggestions? Let me know, but please spesify why also

    Regards

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    800 test is alot and 18 wks is a long time. I would shorten cycle length at least to 16 or 14. I was told to use dbol at the 30mg range.. good results with less or no sides..
    yes you need to run an AI not sure how much 25mg seems pretty high

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    i would use hcg during the cycle.
    You need a stronger pct
    i would think your higher then 10% if you only have the top abs showing
    i agree i would use an anti-e and 25mg is alot

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    dbol is fine for the first 4 weeks or so but like was said earlier I would shorten the whole thing. I'd run the hcg right at the end of the cycle for 4 weeks. That would be 2 weeks into your pct which needs to be a lot stronger. clomid and nolvadex at least

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    and yes if you have the top abs showing you are not 10% imo...more like 14%..from experience on here I have seen guys will all abs showing and members were saying 10 or 11%.....

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    thanks for the reply i have 4 other cycles behind me where i stacked, and all went well, no sides.
    So if i adjust it some to look like this:

    drug: _______________________________________week:

    Kur:
    800 mg Test Enanthate (1,6 ml man/tor)_________EW 1-18
    500 mg Deca Decanoate (1,25 ml man/tor)_______EW 1-16
    30 mg Dianabol ______________________________ed 1-4 + 12-16
    200 mg Vitamin B-6___________________________ed 1-20
    12,5 mg Aromasin____________________________ed 1-20

    PCT:
    250 iu HCG _________________________________ed 18-20
    20 mg Nolvadex ____________________________ed 21-26
    100 mg Clomid ed (300 mg first day)____________ed 21-24


    Its seems more ok?
    Also if i feel 18 weeks becoming to much i can always end it and start PCT before.

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