Test question. Need opinions.

[IrishMuscle]

Hey guys. I'm a noob here and yet to try a cycle.. I know that there is an abundance of knowledge on here so I figured I'd ask you guys.
Basically I'm about to start a test cycle, (after Christmas that is) and I can get nebido (test undeconoate) With relative ease. I know most guys use test-e for their first cycle but I can't seem to get a reliable source around here. Nebido can be got legally so it's easy to get.
Anyway here's my question, should I go ahead with the nebido and try it or will I get far better gains by holding out and trying to source test e.
By the way, I'm 24, 6'1", 80kg with single figure bodyfat, I feel now is the time for me to take it to another level...
Look forward to replys.

[Blade15]

Training exp.???

[Bonaparte]

Cycling with Nebido is going to be crap.
It will take forever to kick in, and months to clear your system.

[IrishMuscle]

Thanks for the reply guys, Been training for past 3 years with good diet. Went from roughly 133lbs to almost 180 since starting. Finding it extremely hard to push past 180 with diet alone. This is why I'm planning on running a test only cycle to try add some quality mass... Been talking to a few guys and they all say test eth should be the first cycle of any newbie??

[UnderRated2010]

i would say if you cant push past 180 at 6'1 than you have some adjusting to do with your diet cause that is a bit underweight for someone of your height in the bodybuilding community. if thats your only reason for AAS i would try a few things out with your diet first and suppliments before jumping into an AAS program for the extra weight. as far as your original question, test is always the best starting point for newbies but it doesnt necesarily have to be test e...

[gearbox]

Its hard to push past certain weight and maintain single digits I think. Eat clean but more and push past with diet then wk back to cutting a little for single.digits again if u want.

[chuckt12345]

OP,, look into a simple test only cycle and pct. Read up and learn everything yourself. Comes in hand when you actually know what your doing as opposed to being told.

[chuckt12345]

i would say if you cant push past 180 at 6'1 than you have some adjusting to do with your diet cause that is a bit underweight for someone of your height in the bodybuilding community. if thats your only reason for AAS i would try a few things out with your diet first and suppliments before jumping into an AAS program for the extra weight. as far as your original question, test is always the best starting point for newbies but it doesnt necesarily have to be test e...

180 at 8% BF is pretty good build

[DanB]

24 or 21 on profile?

[wantaesthetics]

nah op you got a solid build. Weight isn't everything(not even close). You easily look 200 and that's what matters as a bodybuilder. Go for it.

[IrishMuscle]

Thanks for the feedback guys, think I'm gonna wait until the new year before I start, try gain another few pounds of muscle before I start (easier said than done). Btw I was 24 as of July, dunno where it says 21 cause when I try click 'my profile' it says I do not have permission to access this page..

[DanB]

your right waiting till new year i.m.o because of the christmas/new year, diet and training can take a back seat for week or two . . . .you have a good base to work with and seem to have done some research, make sure you do a proper pct, i know alot of people over here dont do it or some dont even know what that is over here but its essential and you will be glad you done it to get ur test/estrogen back to normal. . .where in ireland are ya mate

[IrishMuscle]

In south Dublin, bray shankill area.. So many people over here completely neglect any pct... Only last week I was talking to a guy who was planning on running d-Bol for 8 weeks... He figured he could just taper off it from week 6... The goal for me is to compete in November 2012, hopefully I can. Where in Ireland are you?

[DanB]

west dublin, dbol,drol only is common over here, so is deca only and massive amount of fake hgh, clomid/nolva wats that????? haha. . .people dont have a clue, what they doing or even what they using alot of the time. . . its good to have goals,helps ya stay focused. . .i hit my goals this year and hope to put on serious size next year, if thats you in the avi then with a cycle and dedicated training you should be in serious shape by then and if entering the amature's id say you do pretty well judgeing by this years comp

[IrishMuscle]

Yeah that's me 4 months ago, I'm about 2kgs heavier now thanks to hitting legs ridiculously hard.. I would love to compete in the amateurs. Do you compete at all? Really want to make some friends in the Irish bb world but I don't really know anyone

[DanB]

no dont compete mate, im still a bit off that standard but hope to be closer by middle next year. . .stick round on here theres a few irish on the board and plenty of people that compete to help ya get ready

[IrishMuscle]

I plan on hanging around for quite a bit . Learned more in the last few days on here than I have in years in the gym ha