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    Domestic mail being scanned

    Anyone hear this nasty nasty rumor about USPS picking up their security and randomly scanning mail?
    Heard of a guy who's domestic package got seized, was a huge order but domestic seizure is unheard of to me.

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    I believe packages can be randomly searched though I never ran in to the issue domestically.

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    they can be scanned if suspicious or at random. they need a warrant to open and they can get that if the scanned showed something
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bishop View Post
    usps is safer..... fedex or ups can open at will, usps needs a warrant...
    your right i forgot to mention that
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    While I know they can scan, I cannot imagine they are increasing security or ANYTHING else at the USPS with their budget shortfalls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bishop View Post
    usps is safer..... fedex or ups can open at will, usps needs a warrant...
    USPS regularly grants access to law enfor***ent with drug dogs to scan warehouses / packages. UPS REFUSES law enforcment access to their facilities for this purpose. My point Id prefer a private company that refuses such activity over a Gov run entitiy that grants such permissions any day. Im sure they prob arent using specially trained dogs that can sniff AAS (but there are such dogs btw) ... im just using the whole scenario as an example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    USPS regularly grants access to law enfor***ent with drug dogs to scan warehouses / packages. UPS REFUSES law enforcment access to their facilities for this purpose. My point Id prefer a private company that refuses such activity over a Gov run entitiy that grants such permissions any day. Im sure they prob arent using specially trained dogs that can sniff AAS (but there are such dogs btw) ... im just using the whole scenario as an example.
    Are drug sniffing dogs trained to sniff out gear though? I can understand heroin, cocaine, pot or any other recreational drug. But gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bishop View Post
    usps is safer..... fedex or ups can open at will, usps needs a warrant...
    That only applies to First Class (Express) mail.
    Priority and below can be opened by any postal inspector, but they only normally open packs for good reason (like if it is ticking, leaking oil, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Are drug sniffing dogs trained to sniff out gear though? I can understand heroin, cocaine, pot or any other recreational drug. But gear?
    no.
    I've heard of some dog somewhere being trained to sniff out some form of AAS, but I wouldn't worry about it.

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    It seems to me they would up security just like at the airports, Its the holidays, lots of things go thru the mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bishop View Post
    usps is safer..... fedex or ups can open at will, usps needs a warrant...
    Just cause they need a warrant, doesn't mak it safer. A warrant can b granted in less than 30 min in many / most cases if PC has been established. So rather than being able 2 open the pkg on the spot & bust u, they open it 30 or 60 min later............so wut...................they still opened it, ur still busted. Domestic shipments hav always been safer cuz they don't go though the scrutiny of customs, but if they're gona up their investigative frequency & procedures, they will eventually b no safer than international.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    USPS regularly grants access to law enfor***ent with drug dogs to scan warehouses / packages. UPS REFUSES law enforcment access to their facilities for this purpose. My point Id prefer a private company that refuses such activity over a Gov run entitiy that grants such permissions any day. Im sure they prob arent using specially trained dogs that can sniff AAS (but there are such dogs btw) ... im just using the whole scenario as an example.
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    they aint worrying about shite right now except their jobs. may actually be opening more packages but its not because there gonna bust you with the contents,, more as a severance package sort of thing.

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    Good info..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    they aint worrying about shite right now except their jobs. may actually be opening more packages but its not because there gonna bust you with the contents,, more as a severance package sort of thing.
    How very literal. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    they aint worrying about shite right now except their jobs. may actually be opening more packages but its not because there gonna bust you with the contents,, more as a severance package sort of thing.
    Haha, good to know.
    The package that was searched was sent express.
    I don't like how UPS asks the contents of the package. I think I'll stick to USPS

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    Often this stuff is the result of an alert counter person, You have some moron starts selling juice and shows up each day with a bunch of plain brown packages with no business labels etc to ship to various recievers. It does not take long before people who work there notice. Even if they use a group of people or a rented business addy and mail service it still represents an unusual pattern before long.

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    ^^^ funny you should say that. I have a friend who manages a Giant food store. They have western union there. They train their employees that work at the western union to look out for suspicious people and patterns and they can submit any activity they suspect is suspicious. Also on transactions over $600 there is a box that they can check upon enetering it that immediately flags it as suspicious if they feel for any reason it is. I think there is a ton of truth in your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bishop View Post
    usps is safer..... fedex or ups can open at will, usps needs a warrant...
    Yes indeed you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    ^^^ funny you should say that. I have a friend who manages a Giant food store. They have western union there. They train their employees that work at the western union to look out for suspicious people and patterns and they can submit any activity they suspect is suspicious. Also on transactions over $600 there is a box that they can check upon enetering it that immediately flags it as suspicious if they feel for any reason it is. I think there is a ton of truth in your post.
    Now you're making me paranoid. What kind of person wouldn't be suspicious of a some dude (who clearly sounds American in speech) sending money to a "family" member in eastern Europe (whom has a name rather difficult to pronounce when they ask for the name). I'd think something was up. I thought they weren't paid to care what we're sending money to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    ^^^ funny you should say that. I have a friend who manages a Giant food store. They have western union there. They train their employees that work at the western union to look out for suspicious people and patterns and they can submit any activity they suspect is suspicious. Also on transactions over $600 there is a box that they can check upon enetering it that immediately flags it as suspicious if they feel for any reason it is. I think there is a ton of truth in your post.
    Now you're making me paranoid. What kind of person wouldn't be suspicious of a some dude (who clearly sounds American in speech) sending money to a "family" member in eastern Europe (whom has a name rather difficult to pronounce when they ask for the name). I'd think something was up. I thought they weren't paid to care what we're sending money to.

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    1- With the current problems USPS is facing I really doubt they will UP security right now, not for finding juice or even rec. drugs.

    2- I didn't know this W.U. crap that concerns me a bit, I try to be casual about it but sending 500 bucks to china is never a smooth transaction, I mean, if I was on the other side of that counter I would most likely know something fishy was up.

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    I gotta find some ghetto places to do this stuff at.... Probably better odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Now you're making me paranoid. What kind of person wouldn't be suspicious of a some dude (who clearly sounds American in speech) sending money to a "family" member in eastern Europe (whom has a name rather difficult to pronounce when they ask for the name). I'd think something was up. I thought they weren't paid to care what we're sending money to.
    That's why I always use a WU location that's a hole in the wall 24hr check cash place in a terrible area of town where they barely speak english.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman View Post
    That's why I always use a WU location that's a hole in the wall 24hr check cash place in a terrible area of town where they barely speak english.
    That would be me on my next purchase LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman View Post
    That's why I always use a WU location that's a hole in the wall 24hr check cash place in a terrible area of town where they barely speak english.
    Exactly.
    White people are nosy.
    Most minorities don't give a ****, and don't like the cops anyway.
    Oh, and if they are in the ghetto, I'm probably the least sketchy customer they have and they're just happy that I don't look like I'm going to commit armed robbery.

    + I always use a fake ID anyway, so I don't care what they do.

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