200mg/wk tren ace sufficient for a first time tren user?

[Cronos]

Starting my first cycle with tren, and was wondering everyones opinion on the weekly dosage.

will be running 200mg/week tren ace with 750mg/week sust. Just curious if you guys with tren experience feel this is enough to reap the benefits of tren, as this is my first time with tren

Thanks!

[gearbox]

I have been told that the test should be low and tren high...something like test 200-400 tren 500-600..

how many cycles have do done previously and what are your stats

[Bonaparte]

My first and only run with Tren was only 175mg/week (50mg EOD) and it was plenty.

[Cronos]

2 previous cycles of test only @ 500-750mg/wk
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[Cronos]

Can I also get opinions on this

It's advised to run test lower than tren, because tren will bind quicker, therefore win for a spot on the androgen receptor. 19nor's, as in deca like compounds (the absence of the 19th carbon atom) makes it much slower to androgen reception (agonist) ...as compared to tren (antagonist). If you want to bump your test to 750mg, don't even bother with the tren at that point. You can effectively use 750mg test with a lower dose deca or any other 19nor compound. You'll just be wasting test if you run it over and above your tren dose.

[t-gunz]

200mg tren ace is a good dose to start on mate. you will see results

[Bonaparte]

Can I also get opinions on this

It's advised to run test lower than tren, because tren will bind quicker, therefore win for a spot on the androgen receptor. 19nor's, as in deca like compounds (the absence of the 19th carbon atom) makes it much slower to androgen reception (agonist) ...as compared to tren (antagonist). If you want to bump your test to 750mg, don't even bother with the tren at that point. You can effectively use 750mg test with a lower dose deca or any other 19nor compound. You'll just be wasting test if you run it over and above your tren dose.

Complete BS. All of it.
The only real con I can see to running a large dose of test with it is that you won't notice the recomp/cutting effects of the Tren as much (vascularity, hardening, fat-burning) because you'll be bloated from the test. But that's mainly a cosmetic issue and can be remedied by using an AI.
There is no way in hell that test is going to prevent the Tren from binding to ARs, since it has 5X the AR binding affinity of test (and you have more than enough receptors for both).

[gonzo6183]

I have been told that the test should be low and tren high...something like test 200-400 tren 500-600..how many cycles have do done previously and what are your stats

I would not listen to this advice at all... Run your test as normal (im assuming 500mg) and add the 200mg of tren and you will get great results. I planned a few cycles for mates and their first time on tren was 50mg EOD (200mg/week) they had great results

[MR10X]

Can I also get opinions on this

It's advised to run test lower than tren, because tren will bind quicker, therefore win for a spot on the androgen receptor. 19nor's, as in deca like compounds (the absence of the 19th carbon atom) makes it much slower to androgen reception (agonist) ...as compared to tren (antagonist). If you want to bump your test to 750mg, don't even bother with the tren at that point. You can effectively use 750mg test with a lower dose deca or any other 19nor compound. You'll just be wasting test if you run it over and above your tren dose.

I am still researching the receptor binding thing,but so far from what i have learned tha an AR receptor will accept more than one compound.It is like opening your wallet and being able to put dollar bills or 10 dollar bills in it, it will accept both. I am still researching that and theres not any medical literature on that subject that have found yet.
I have done 5 tren cycle with differnt amounts of test and other compounds added with it and there doesnt seem to be much difference,the results were pretty much the same.

[stpete]

200's fine...Keep injections to EOD at least.

[Cronos]

My first and only run with Tren was only 175mg/week (50mg EOD) and it was plenty.

Thanks man, that's encouraging! Just curious, why was that your only run with tren? Bad sides? Poor recovery?

[Cronos]

I would not listen to this advice at all... Run your test as normal (im assuming 500mg) and add the 200mg of tren and you will get great results. I planned a few cycles for mates and their first time on tren was 50mg EOD (200mg/week) they had great results

That's exactly what I'm doing, 50mg EOD

[MR10X]

As strong as tren is thats a good amount to use for the first time,it probably on the lower side of dosing but everyone reacts differently and the side effects can be pretty severe with tren and so much so that some people stop using it. You need to find what your tolerable dose is and thats a good start.From what i seen 75mg ED is the sweet spot for most people,for some it comes down to how much of the bad ide effects can you tolerate,and they can be pretty severe and are dose dependant. I have done a LOT of different steroids and tren is all by it self.

[Bonaparte]

Thanks man, that's encouraging! Just curious, why was that your only run with tren? Bad sides? Poor recovery?

It was my last blast and was over the summer.
The gains were great, but I started getting libido issues in the last 2 weeks that lingered for a while.
And I wasn't crazy about the edginess and hair loss, and I started developing some gyno.
I'll probably use it again when I get bored with just test and primo, but with more AI.
And I'll probably cut it off after 4-5 weeks, since most of the sides came on in weeks 5 and 6.