typical results on cycle

[ucf465]

26 years old
213 lbs
6'2"
15% bf
first cycle test e 250 mg every third day for 12 weeks with 1000 mg tbol in the front at 60 mg daily (dropped the tbol due to unusual water retention)

Im currently running aburaihan human grade test e and was wondering if my results were typical for the amount im taking.

I have put 50 pounds on my working sets for bench and im doing a 5x5

im currently on the last day of week 8.

after the first 2 weeks i didnt gain any more weight but i kept getting stronger.

is my gear under dosed?

[gixxerboy1]

doesnt sound like its fake. if the scale isnt moving its your diet

[ucf465]

doesnt sound like its fake. if the scale isnt moving its your diet

i get in around 4000 to 4500 cals a day and at least 300 grams of protein. u think i still need more?

[chuckt12345]

i get in around 4000 to 4500 cals a day and at least 300 grams of protein. u think i still need more?

if your really taking 4000 calories then thats plenty,, just because you dont see it on the scale doesnt mean you arent gaining muscle,, you could be losing fat

[gearbox]

true on the fat...what was your bf before cycle and are you sure your takining in 4000+ calories.... (no disrespect, its just many do not understand and guess)

[ucf465]

true on the fat...what was your bf before cycle and are you sure your takining in 4000+ calories.... (no disrespect, its just many do not understand and guess)

none taken lol. i read all food labels and count accordingly. im not noticing any fat loss but that may just be from the bloat. i have dropped my cals down to 3500 as of last week and im about the same weight so i hope its fat loss.

how anti-catabolic is test? i think i might do an hour of fasted cardio a few times a week in the morning.

is this ok?

[Hazard]

Post your diet up..... i'd like tos ee where those 3500 calories are comming from. Are you including protein shakes? If it's all solid foods and theyre good sources of protein/carbs then you should be gaining pretty easily.....

~Haz~

[ucf465]

breakfast:

2 cups skim milk
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 cup oats
2 scoops whey

fat/carb/pro/cal
24/92/81/931

2 cups rice
8 ounces chicken

8/78/58/600

1 cup oats
8 ounces lean ground beef
22/54/58/680

pre-workout
2 cups skim milk
1/2 cup oats
1 scoop whey
30 grams dextrose

3/72/37/570

post work out
1 cup oats
2 scoop whey
50 grams dextrose

6/102/58/660

bedtime:
2 scoops casein
2/6/48 240

daily cal intake= 3681 give or take

these meals vary in type of carb or protein but generally this is how many shakes i have during the day. also this is a LOW calorie day for me. i usually eat another 1000 cals on top of the above (sometimes coming from junk i.e. steak and shake) but none the less this is what i eat

after i stopped gaining weight (weeks 4 thru 7) while eating this much i got discouraged and dropped my intake to around 3000 to 3500 and have turned whats left of the cycle into a cutting cycle.

thank you everyone for all of your in put!

[ucf465]

bump

[Knockout_Power]

^^^ you answered your own questions in your diet layout. You have 5 scoops of whey and 2 scoops of casein powders. Thats probably between 150-190g of protein for your daily intake you can pretty much write off as far as your daily totals go. Subtract 6-800 of those daily cals bro. You would be better off with just 2 scoops of whey/day and add in 8oz of salmon or talapia throughout the day and maybe half a dozen egg whites in first meal

[xelnaga]

^ There's definitely something to be said about real food. My first two cycles involved lots of fancy protein powders and nutrition supplements. This time im only using whole foods and its working out much better.

[ucf465]

guess ill have to make the switch.

thanks for the input guys

[ucf465]

double post

[xelnaga]

Part of it is whole food doesnt go in and out real quick... if you know what I mean.

[Knockout_Power]

guess ill have to make the switch.

thanks for the input guys

dude, this is a much more mature response to advise then Ive seen over the last week or so in the Q&A section... everyone else seems to have a shit fit when they are told what they are doing is not the ideal way...

good on you bro, you will be on your way to gains much faster than these other guys

[xelnaga]

dude, this is a much more mature response to advise then Ive seen over the last week or so in the Q&A section... everyone else seems to have a shit fit when they are told what they are doing is not the ideal way...

good on you bro, you will be on your way to gains much faster than these other guys

Well said. I had a great professor one time that said " It takes one person to have the balls to ask a question that everyone wants to know but wont ask"

[dec11]

yeah def big holes from post w/o onwards mate, get two food sources down ya after your post w/o shake and the your casein right as you're falling asleep