Tren E vs prohormone Tren

[Bizo]

Last time I got back into training in 2009, I decided to try epi-tren from bosc even though I though all that OTC shit was junk. After gaining about 25 pounds in a month and developing some cystic acne and a bad attitude, I realized that this was just juice in a bottle. I know most of the good shit has been pulled since then and I really have no interest in PH's anymore cuz the mental effects it had on me. As soon as I finished the epi-tren, I used two 10ml bottles of Tren e (200mg/ml) and felt like it didn't do shit. Maybe I got a little leaner but losing all the water from the epi helped that.

I'd like to jump on some more but not sure which way to go. I read so many good things about Tren helping get ripped but so many bad things about the sides. I like eq also and I know the sides aren't nearly as bad but I don't have experience with either one. When I was younger, I used a lot off dbol , sust 250 redijects, and test-e cuz it was popular back then and easy to get (before the internet was big, real organon pharmacy shit). I wanna lose bf and gain a little muscle but not blow up. My wife will instantly know if I'm on something like test cuz I swell up and she'll kick my ass. Any suggestions? I'm also not doing the research chem pct as I did in the past cuz I'm not so sure of the potentcy of that shit. I'll get some mail order ae's and hcg for pct but I've never had gyno on the bean just naturally when going through puberty, so none during the cycle. Any help would be appreciated.

[gixxerboy1]

test should be the base of any cycle. So if you dont want to use test i wouldnt cycle

[Bizo]

Would test suspension be a good base then? And if so, should I run clomid to minimize water retention?

[gixxerboy1]

test suspension would technically work. You know that needs to be shot 2x a day.
clomid would be used after cycle for pct not on cycle.
look at a-dex or aromasin for during cycle.

[Bizo]

Cool, thanx. Yeah, I know suspension has a short half life and I heard it hurts like help too. Any other test you would suggest? Like I said, I don't wanna hold a lot of water due to the juiced look and quick size gain. Thanks for your input Gixx

[Bizo]

Oh, one more thing, the two bottles of Tren e that I did hurt like ****. My whole leg or shoulder would kill for a couple of days. My buddy was supposedly on the same shit and he had no pain.

[gixxerboy1]

everyone reacts different.
i would use test prop instead

[boomerfb]

everyone reacts different.
i would use test prop instead

I'm taking 3 iu hgh a day and I want to get stronger and leaner any suggestions of what I should stack with my hgh

[Ashop]

test should be the base of any cycle. So if you dont want to use test i wouldnt cycle

I tend to agree and I definitely would never use any type of TREN without some additional testosterone .