could do with some advice first time please :)

[dick02]

hi guys i have just started my first cycle i have been advised by a few people and i am on my 4th week i am on test enanthate and deca durabolin i am smashing on the muscle and loosing fat fast. i am taking 200mg of deca a week and 600mg test i am on deca 50 so i have to take 4mls a week which is insane costs so much money. i am going to go and see my doctor about getting estrogen blockers for my 4 week pct. i have put on 6kgs already. i was am just after some advice and opinions. i have been educating myself for about a year now and finally decided to get on it. no education beats expiercence though so please send me some advice.

peace out brothers

[The Bear 79]

hi guys i have just started my first cycle i have been advised by a few people and i am on my 4th week i am on test enanthate and deca durabolin i am smashing on the muscle and loosing fat fast. i am taking 200mg of deca a week and 600mg test i am on deca 50 so i have to take 4mls a week which is insane costs so much money. i am going to go and see my doctor about getting estrogen blockers for my 4 week pct. i have put on 6kgs already. i was am just after some advice and opinions. i have been educating myself for about a year now and finally decided to get on it. no education beats expiercence though so please send me some advice.

peace out brothers

Welcome dick02. In that year of educating urself, u must hav done some research on the Endocrine & HPTA right??? Wut r ur stats & goals?

[dick02]

yes i have and i fully understand the risks. i am 182cm high weigh 86kgs. my goal is to weigh about 90 95kgs of lean muscle. i want to be able to bench 160, squat 200 and deadlift 220. they are my goals at the moment but they are achievable and when i have reached them i will raise the bar.

i rep max

bench: 120 kg
squat: 160 kg
deadlift: 180kg

[scorpion62]

19 Mate is young and as The Bear said have you done your research on Endocrine & HPTA-Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular axis,I take it you dont know what to use for a PCT which you should have to hand when you started your cycle I dont know if a doctor will give this ,Your PCT would be Nolvadex & clomid, also you should only run one compond to see if you will have any problems with it

[Knockout_Power]

very young man, not a good idea to cycle. I think you should have done a bit more educating before attempting this. Test only is the best way to start, and thats after your body is done maturing

[nik1603]

Bro u can achieve those lifts naturally? Im 17 and my max is higher than urs on all of that and i havnt touched gear. It just takes some balls to the walls training and good diet. Plus 4 kg naturally at 19 is a nothing. Get off gear cuz all ur guna do is stuff urself up, end up with moobs and be pushing half of the weight u r pushing now. Be smart bro

[Honkey_Kong]

Bro u can achieve those lifts naturally? Im 17 and my max is higher than urs on all of that and i havnt touched gear. It just takes some balls to the walls training and good diet. Plus 4 kg naturally at 19 is a nothing. Get off gear cuz all ur guna do is stuff urself up, end up with moobs and be pushing half of the weight u r pushing now. Be smart bro

I'm pretty sure you have to be 18 to be a member on this site.

[nik1603]

I'm pretty sure you have to be 18 to be a member on this site.

Thats what i thought. But ive be reassured 17 is good to go. I havnt received any nasty messages as of yet or had my account shutdown. (touch wood). I think its good that i get to learn so much from one place at my age

[The Bear 79]

Thats what i thought. But ive be reassured 17 is good to go. I havnt received any nasty messages as of yet or had my account shutdown. (touch wood). I think its good that i get to learn so much from one place at my age

Glad 2 c ur learning & being smart about not cycling @ ur age, but who "reassured" u that it was OK 4 u 2 break the age rule?

[nik1603]

Bear

Dec11 said 17 was the age. I posted some pics in the members experiences section and got told off for my age. Look if im supposed to be 18 then i apologise but this forum has prevented me from making some huge mistakes and im thankful for all that ive learnt here not to mention the fact that it saved my nuts. Literally

[The Bear 79]

Bear

Dec11 said 17 was the age. I posted some pics in the members experiences section and got told off for my age. Look if im supposed to be 18 then i apologise but this forum has prevented me from making some huge mistakes and im thankful for all that ive learnt here not to mention the fact that it saved my nuts. Literally

I find it hard 2 believe Dec sed that, he knows better, but seeing as how u posted this on an open forum where he can c it, I guess I'll believe it, until / unless he states otherwise. Welcome aboard.

[The Bishop]

I find it hard 2 believe Dec sed that, he knows better, but seeing as how u posted this on an open forum where he can c it, I guess I'll believe it, until / unless he states otherwise. Welcome aboard.

Dec11 involved in another controversy? Really?


Who Would have thought it..

[The Bishop]

Bear

Dec11 said 17 was the age. I posted some pics in the members experiences section and got told off for my age. Look if im supposed to be 18 then i apologise but this forum has prevented me from making some huge mistakes and im thankful for all that ive learnt here not to mention the fact that it saved my nuts. Literally

Seems like dec11 is breaking rules telling people whats what when hes not a mod. I wonder if he will get suspended or banned.


Anyways, according to the Forum POSTED rules you must be 18 or older.

[The Bear 79]

Dec11 involved in another controversy? Really?


Who Would have thought it..

Alrite man, get over it already, its done, no need 2 drag it on & on. B productive or b gone.

[dec11]

Bear

Dec11 said 17 was the age. I posted some pics in the members experiences section and got told off for my age. Look if im supposed to be 18 then i apologise but this forum has prevented me from making some huge mistakes and im thankful for all that ive learnt here not to mention the fact that it saved my nuts. Literally

no i didnt say anything of the sort...........

[dec11]

just looked back at the thread, i must have hit 7 instead of 8. my mistake. its 18, as also pointed out by another member on that thread

you also cant have ppl sharing accounts on here, you said it was your brother's account

[xelnaga]

@ Dec- Don't suffer fools .

[dec11]

@ Dec- Don't suffer fools .

one has just bitten the dust lol, waste of space that he was

[The Bear 79]

one has just bitten the dust lol, waste of space that he was

Somehow, I get the feelin I'm goin down with ship too.............

[dick02]

i have been lifting since i was 16 and started off like a little weed i hav been eating a good diet for years i had my own nutritionist whilst i was fighting ametuer mma. and i train ****ing hard and have been lifting on good programs for years. i was stupid as all u guys have said 2 start already but i have done it because the amount of peer pressure and the people i am surrounded by. my choice and i am young dumb n full of cum. all i wanted was good advice from people like the bear. i have only been on deca for only 2 weeks and could stop taking it if it is the right thing to do can someone advise me please. i could just take test. cheers everyone who is being constructive

[nik1603]

one has just bitten the dust lol, waste of space that he was

Haha mature! Having a crack at a 17 year old!! Lol u guys are cool. Since i dont have the mental capacity of a nine year old i will leave it at this. But maybe u should grow up

[Honkey_Kong]

i have been lifting since i was 16 and started off like a little weed i hav been eating a good diet for years i had my own nutritionist whilst i was fighting ametuer mma. and i train ****ing hard and have been lifting on good programs for years. i was stupid as all u guys have said 2 start already but i have done it because the amount of peer pressure and the people i am surrounded by. my choice and i am young dumb n full of cum. all i wanted was good advice from people like the bear. i have only been on deca for only 2 weeks and could stop taking it if it is the right thing to do can someone advise me please. i could just take test. cheers everyone who is being constructive

I really don't think 200mg a week of deca is really going to give you much more of an effect besides maybe some pain relief in the joints. If I were you and I was going to continue a cycle (eventhough i shouldn't), I'd just run test by itself.

[dick02]

sounds good mate i will keep off the deca save it for a while. 200mg was said to be alright for begginers but then again it is ****ing expensive where i get it so it will save some coin aswell

[Honkey_Kong]

sounds good mate i will keep off the deca save it for a while. 200mg was said to be alright for begginers but then again it is ****ing expensive where i get it so it will save some coin aswell

You should sell off the unopened viles and amps you have of it. Seriously, using gear at your age will do more harm than good.

[The Bear 79]

Haha mature! Having a crack at a 17 year old!! Lol u guys are cool. Since i dont have the mental capacity of a nine year old i will leave it at this. But maybe u should grow up

Chill tough guy, he wasn't talkin bout u.

[The Bear 79]

sounds good mate i will keep off the deca save it for a while. 200mg was said to be alright for begginers but then again it is ****ing expensive where i get it so it will save some coin aswell

I would stop EVERYTHING rite now if I were u. We can help u put 2gether a great mass building diet & training regime if you'd like. BTW, dont EVER run Deca alone again, its a 19 nor with some pretty nasty side effects as far as HPTA go's, ALWAYS run it with Test., but til ur 25.

[scorpion62]

dick02 as I said in your thread clomid stop what your doing as you havent soursed a PCT or have YOU so as bear said stop everything before its to late if he the one your listen to

[dick02]

i have stopped and i have a meeting with my doc tmorrow im gunna see what he says