help with averages

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 07:32 AM

hey all,
just wondering if anyone knows where i could find average lifts for 20yr old males
or if anyone here could post their own amounts?

Thanks in advance

**ottomaddox** · 12-11-2011, 07:37 AM

Too many variables, height, weight, nutrition, years training, consistency...

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by manmanman

hey all,
just wondering if anyone knows where i could find average lifts for 20yr old males
or if anyone here could post their own amounts?

Thanks in advance

There is no "average", everyone is different. Just bcuz a 20 yr old is lifting 250 lbs., doesn't mean ur gona b able to just cuz ur also 20. How much u can lift boils down to proper / effective technique, proper nutrition 4 growth, & consistency / dedication.

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 07:48 AM

ahk, just because i have been training for about 8 months consistently. but while hitting the weights i often have people watching me, thinking they want to use the equipment, but when i am done they do not use it. it makes me unsure if they are rediculing me for the amount i am lifting or what.

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by manmanman

ahk, just because i have been training for about 8 months consistently. but while hitting the weights i often have people watching me, thinking they want to use the equipment, but when i am done they do not use it. it makes me unsure if they are rediculing me for the amount i am lifting or what.

Who cares, just brush em off, & know, 1 day, you'll b twice their size. BTW, I doubt they're "ridiculing" u, they probably just think ur too sexy 4 ur shirt..................

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 08:02 AM

haha! i would make a gay joke. butttt a mountain of muscle covered in flames kind of just puts me off it.

what about you bear? how long you been training etc?

**IrishMuscle** · 12-11-2011, 08:13 AM

I feel the same sometimes but I never up the weight to try show off or anything.. All about form

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 08:18 AM

i agree irish, ive had a few guys watch me, then go for the same weight or heavier, and just either use horrible form or struggle for 2 reps.
making sure neither me nor my friends are ever " that guy" is very important to me haha

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by manmanman

haha! i would make a gay joke. butttt a mountain of muscle covered in flames kind of just puts me off it.

what about you bear? how long you been training etc?

I've been full throttle since I was 18 when I enlisted & saw wut my body was capable of with just standard PT & sufficient nutrition. I'm 32 now, so that makes about 14 yrs.

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 08:24 AM

and yourve been doing 4-6 days a week that long? thats very impressive!

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by manmanman

and yourve been doing 4-6 days a week that long? thats very impressive!

The last couple of yrs, I've been exploring the body's need 4 a break, & most recently, I was having some trouble making new gains in my upper chest, so I took 2 wks off per Dec11's advice, but other than that, the only time I've took any time off was about 3 yrs ago when I caught "the crud". My current plan is 2 take 2 - 3 wks off every 4 - 6 months.

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 08:34 AM

how big were you when you started to where you are now?

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by manmanman

how big were you when you started to where you are now?

I went to boot camp @ a hair over 6' & about 160 lbs. / 7 or 8% BF. I am now 6'-2" & 237 lbs. / 11 or 2% BF.

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 08:40 AM

holy shit, thats a massive change:O

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 08:43 AM

do you have any before/after pics?!

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by manmanman

do you have any before/after pics?!

Sorry bro no pics. There will never b a pic of me on this site. If ur employer finds out u use steroids , u get fired, if mine finds out, I go 2 jail. No pics.

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 08:48 AM

my next question was going to be was it natural lol.
oh never knew that! thanks for that englightment.

are you able to tell me your use history? such as first cycle and how often etc?

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by manmanman

my next question was going to be was it natural lol.
oh never knew that! thanks for that englightment.

are you able to tell me your use history? such as first cycle and how often etc?

I was all natty up to the age of 27 & 204 lbs. My 1st cycle was Test. E, 500 mg/wk for 10 or 12 wks (cant remember) 2nd cycle was Test. E 600 mg/wk & Deca 500 mg/wk for 12 wks & my most recent cycle was 750 mg/wk of Test. E, 600 mg/wk of Eq., & 50 mg/ed of D-bol, for 10 wks.

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 09:01 AM

howcome you decided to get on the test?

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 09:25 AM

Honestly, a friend came over 1 day with 5 vials of Test. E & a boat load of Nolva & rim. At that point, I had already been researching steroids for about 2 yrs, so I figured "y not" I had a good foundation, sufficient diet, a good knowledge base, & plenty of training experience. So we ordered som pins, & the rest is history. For me it was a "want" not a "need", looking bak, I wish I would've waited til I met my genetic potential / max.

**manmanman** · 12-11-2011, 09:31 AM

i assume its safe to say you have a impressive phisque now tho?
Do you plauy any sports?or just build?

**gearbox** · 12-11-2011, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

Honestly, a friend came over 1 day with 5 vials of Test. E & a boat load of Nolva & rim. At that point, I had already been researching steroids for about 2 yrs, so I figured "y not" I had a good foundation, sufficient diet, a good knowledge base, & plenty of training experience. So we ordered som pins, & the rest is history. For me it was a "want" not a "need", looking bak, I wish I would've waited til I met my genetic potential / max.

what is your reason behind waiting till u reached your genetic potential. Just curious

**Jean Claude** · 12-11-2011, 12:31 PM

You don't think you hit your genetic potential in 9 years of training?

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by manmanman

i assume its safe to say you have a impressive phisque now tho?
Do you plauy any sports?or just build?

I'm pretty satisfied with my build / look & the strength that comes with it, but I'm nowhere near done yet, my goal is 300 lbs. / 8% I play Baseball, just a local hardball league, but we tak it very seriously, we really get in2 it.

**dec11** · 12-11-2011, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jean Claude

You don't think you hit your genetic potential in 9 years of training?

i made natural gains for 16yrs

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

what is your reason behind waiting till u reached your genetic potential. Just curious

Bcuz, I'd know in my mind, I went as far as I possibly could natty b4 I juiced, instead of just jumpin on the gear cuz it was available.

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Jean Claude

You don't think you hit your genetic potential in 9 years of training?

I know 4 certain I hadn't reached my max potential yet. I was still making gains natty when I decided 2 gear up.

**dec11** · 12-11-2011, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

I know 4 certain I hadn't reached my max potential yet. I was still making gains natty when I decided 2 gear up.

x2. i could still have went on gaining also. some ppl reckon they're done gaining after afew years, just a lame excuse to make up for not doing things properly

**stpete** · 12-11-2011, 12:55 PM

No one in the gym w/any experience cares about what you're lifting. What matters is that you're in there working. Hell, there's always someone stronger than the next guy. Just make sure that you are living up to your expectations(within reach of course) and that's all that matters.

**Jean Claude** · 12-11-2011, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

x2. i could still have went on gaining also. some ppl reckon they're done gaining after afew years, just a lame excuse to make up for not doing things properly

Yeah, you are right on that one. I realized that I was lazy with my training as far as eating right, getting enough rest at the right hours, and taking my vitamins. Once I fixed that, boom, I overcame my plateau. I'm still slowly improving but it's pretty hard to see results come so slow with so much dedication. Given, I feel good that I'm finally doing things the way that I should.

Bear, wow man you really want to be 300 lbs at that % body fat? DAAAAMN. Personally I wouldn't want to be over 240 at 6'2. To each their own as they say.

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

x2. i could still have went on gaining also. some ppl reckon they're done gaining after afew years, just a lame excuse to make up for not doing things properly

Agreed. 100%..... If ur diet & training regime is tuned in, Its not difficult 2 figure out if u hav reached ur max................r u still gaining or not.................its that simple.

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Jean Claude

Yeah, you are right on that one. I realized that I was lazy with my training as far as eating right, getting enough rest at the right hours, and taking my vitamins. Once I fixed that, boom, I overcame my plateau. I'm still slowly improving but it's pretty hard to see results come so slow with so much dedication. Given, I feel good that I'm finally doing things the way that I should.

Bear, wow man you really want to be 300 lbs at that % body fat? DAAAAMN. Personally I wouldn't want to be over 240 at 6'2. To each their own as they say.

Its just a "once in a lifetime" goal, I don't wanna stay there long, maybe 6 months to a yr. Just 2 get some pix & say "I did it".

**Juicing Post Whore** · 12-11-2011, 01:32 PM

There is somewhat of an average based on height/weight & age.

**The Bear 79** · 12-11-2011, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Juicing Post Whore

There is somewhat of an average based on height/weight & age.

Is that a statement or a question?

**gearbox** · 12-11-2011, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

I'm pretty satisfied with my build / look & the strength that comes with it, but I'm nowhere near done yet, my goal is 300 lbs. / 8% I play Baseball, just a local hardball league, but we tak it very seriously, we really get in2 it.

awesome goal bro..and good luck..would love to see pics when it happens and your retired from your job so you dont get fired haha

**manmanman** · 12-12-2011, 05:12 AM

Haha! Yeah don't get fired!

Just want to say im very happy with the amount of input from all members to a new posters questions, it's so good.

Another question for you all, how do you judge how much energy you use in your job? Such as someone in a office job wouldn't use same amount as someone walking and light lifting all day?