Dbol cycle questions

[Jasper13]

Hey guys I want to first thank anyone who has input for their time in reading this and helping me out...I am 22 years old and weigh 180 pounds. I have been lifting since I was 16 and take the past time pretty serious. My daily lifting partner is on his third cycle and has seen some very sufficient increases in size and strength. I have recently purchased Dbol and am going to start taking it. In my research I have found that it isn't recommended to take Dbol by itself. I have bought a test booster from GNC and some Liver cleanser pills. The Dbol pills are 10MG each. What do you recommend that I take? And how long should I cycle this? My body type is pretty normal. I have a slight gut and a little bit of fat on my chest. I am a pretty "In shape" and athletic individual. I plan on doing lots of legs and running daily while on this as well. Any and all input/suggestions are welcomed. Thanks in advanced!

[xelnaga]

The following are bad ideas: taking dbol alone, using dbol at age 22, using OTC gnc products rather than real testosterone, and thinking that dbol is a great drug to use while doing a lot of running.

[dooie]

Do some more research bro, your a little young!! Think of it like this, if you do it now, u most likely lose all of your gains, like I did when I first cycled! Hold off for a while, like I'm doing now and put it on naturally! The bigger and more results you have naturally, when u do a cycle, the results will show alot better and u may keep ur gains!

You need real test anyway, not a test booster, they don't work,

No point putting ur body through possible serious conditions, that it may not recover from, for gaining a little weight just to lose it all,

I know it's tempting to do it, but seriously, hold off, eat well, and grow, u'll be surprised what a really good diet can do for your physique, this forum has some amazing ppl in the forum section go check it out bro

Hope u listen, don't hurt yourself mate!

[dec11]

The following are bad ideas: taking dbol alone, using dbol at age 22, using OTC gnc products rather than real testosterone, and thinking that dbol is a great drug to use while doing a lot of running.

Do some more research bro, your a little young!! Think of it like this, if you do it now, u most likely lose all of your gains, like I did when I first cycled! Hold off for a while, like I'm doing now and put it on naturally! The bigger and more results you have naturally, when u do a cycle, the results will show alot better and u may keep ur gains!

You need real test anyway, not a test booster, they don't work,

No point putting ur body through possible serious conditions, that it may not recover from, for gaining a little weight just to lose it all,

I know it's tempting to do it, but seriously, hold off, eat well, and grow, u'll be surprised what a really good diet can do for your physique, this forum has some amazing ppl in the forum section go check it out bro

Hope u listen, don't hurt yourself mate!

^^^x3

[Jasper13]

I appreciate the positive feedback. And thanks for being kind about it and not flaming me. I know a good bit about lifting and take it very seriously. I know one of the big things people say on forums is NOT to take juice at a younger age. However, I am going to take it. So ANY advice would greatly be appreciated.

[Jasper13]

The following are bad ideas: taking dbol alone, using dbol at age 22, using OTC gnc products rather than real testosterone, and thinking that dbol is a great drug to use while doing a lot of running.

Is running while on Dbol a bad idea? Can you explain this? I know it speeds the heart up and Im assuming that is the risk. By running I really mean jogging and walking on incline on the treadmill and elliptical.

[dooie]

I appreciate the positive feedback. And thanks for being kind about it and not flaming me. I know a good bit about lifting and take it very seriously. I know one of the big things people say on forums is NOT to take juice at a younger age. However, I am going to take it. So ANY advice would greatly be appreciated.

Oh man!! there is a reason why people say don't do it before a certain age, professionals have been researching this before you were born, and just because you've picked up a weight or two, you think u know the effects of steroids, and the effects that it will have on your body, there is a reason steroids are illegal!

Dbol will shut ur natural test down, think of it like this, you put extra test in ur body, it tells your body to stop producing its own, because you have more than enough, also because you have so much test, your body will start producing more estrogen (the female hormone) so once you come off the gear, u'll have very very low test and very high estrogen which can cause, tits like a bitch, erectile dysfunction, low test for life (your body never recovers) and many more possible problems.

[Jasper13]

Oh man!! there is a reason why people say don't do it before a certain age, professionals have been researching this before you were born, and just because you've picked up a weight or two, you think u know the effects of steroids, and the effects that it will have on your body, there is a reason steroids are illegal!

Dbol will shut ur natural test down, think of it like this, you put extra test in ur body, it tells your body to stop producing its own, because you have more than enough, also because you have so much test, your body will start producing more estrogen (the female hormone) so once you come off the gear, u'll have very very low test and very high estrogen which can cause, tits like a bitch, erectile dysfunction, low test for life (your body never recovers) and many more possible problems.

Very well put. Are you supposed to take an Anti E during or after the cycle? And you seem to know a solid amount of information about what you're talking about..So could you help me with some of my initial questions? Such as dose and length.

[xelnaga]

I appreciate the positive feedback. And thanks for being kind about it and not flaming me. I know a good bit about lifting and take it very seriously. I know one of the big things people say on forums is NOT to take juice at a younger age. However, I am going to take it. So ANY advice would greatly be appreciated.

Great attitude. Why waste time and effort worrying about consequences when you can just go ahead and do it anyway.

[xelnaga]

In addition you're not giving us a lot to work with. It sounds like you're moderately in shape and nominally informed about steroids.

What PCT are you planning on running?
Please explain your interest in test boosters during dbol use.
Why are you focusing on legs and running?
Are you looking to get cut?
Whats your diet look like?

[Jasper13]

As far as a PCT Im asking for suggestions. Dont want to take more than I have to based on how much I intake during the cycle.
My interest in a test while on the dbol is because after my reading and research I have learned that a "dbol only" cycle is pointless.
Im focused on legs because I want to work my entire body and by doing legs it releases test throughout the body.
Im not really worried about cutting right now. Im looking to bulk more than anything.
And lastly, my diet is going to turn mildly strict once I begin. Egg whites, nuts, grape juice, lots of protein..

[xelnaga]

I suspected that line of thinking was behind your interest in test boosters. But your logic is flawed. Dbol will suppress your natural test production, rendering a natural test booster ineffective.

No one here can prevent you from taking a small and ultimately pointless dbol cycle. However, my above observations indicate that you need to develop a base of knowledge if you're interested in taking PEDs.

Im not sure what the phrase "mildly strict" means.

[Jasper13]

Ok well what do you recommend I take with my Dbol? Im not doubting you, just saying that many other threads and many other people say to stack Dbol with a test. Can you explain to me why its not a good idea? And "mildly strict" meaning Im going to do my best to keep a strict diet. Cheat as little as possible.

[xelnaga]

Ok well what do you recommend I take with my Dbol? Im not doubting you, just saying that many other threads and many other people say to stack Dbol with a test. Can you explain to me why its not a good idea? And "mildly strict" meaning Im going to do my best to keep a strict diet. Cheat as little as possible.

You weren't talking about stacking with test. You were talking about stacking it with an over the counter test booster. Your first cycle should have nothing to do with dbol. It should be test only.

I would also avoid using your friends success to reenforce your belief that taking steroids before 25 is safe. The real damage is done internally and systemically. It can forever alter how your system regulates hormone production and control.

[Jasper13]

You weren't talking about stacking with test. You were talking about stacking it with an over the counter test booster. Your first cycle should have nothing to do with dbol. It should be test only.

I would also avoid using your friends success to reenforce your belief that taking steroids before 25 is safe. The real damage is done internally and systemically. It can forever alter how your system regulates hormone production and control.

Please excuse my ignorance. I am asking all these questions for a reason, and you have already helped me a bit. I thought that OTC test booster was sufficient for the stack. I was wrong and now know this. And I know that 22 is young to take gear, however I have been the same size since I was 17. Height wise that is. The only reason I grew otherwise has been from going to the gym. Im well aware of my risks as well as 90% of the people on this board. Im just trying to get a good read on what MG I should take daily, what a good stack to take with it is, and a good PCT for my cycle.

[xelnaga]

I would drop the fixation on dbol. Your first cycle should be test only. 300-400mgs a week. HCG on cycle, Clomid and nolvadex PCT, and letrozole on hand in case of gyno.

If you run dbol with the test you will have no way of knowing what compound caused any sides you may get. You have to think long term on that one.

[The Bear 79]

Please excuse my ignorance. I am asking all these questions for a reason, and you have already helped me a bit. I thought that OTC test booster was sufficient for the stack. I was wrong and now know this. And I know that 22 is young to take gear, however I have been the same size since I was 17. Height wise that is. The only reason I grew otherwise has been from going to the gym. Im well aware of my risks as well as 90% of the people on this board. Im just trying to get a good read on what MG I should take daily, what a good stack to take with it is, and a good PCT for my cycle.

Just bcuz u haven't grown anymor, doesn't mean ur HPTA (hormone system) is fully developed, cycling @ ur age significantly increases the risk / likelihood of doing potentially irreversible damage 2 ur undeveloped HPTA. U could end up with limp d!ck 4 LIFE!! Among many other potential problems.

[xelnaga]

love d-bol the best ever

Can you please expand upon that statement?

[jimmyinkedup]

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[xelnaga]

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