please help

[vcboss]

hey guys, im new to the forum and wanted to know if you guys could help me out.

im 21, 6'0 175 13% bodyfat.

i was training with no gear for about 2 years, than tore a muscle in my chest and was off for about 4 months.

anyways im all healed up now and less than impressed with the weight i lost while i was wasnt training.

so i started juicing about 2 weeks ago starting with 25mg anadrol twice a day, and 1cc of sustanon350 twice a week.

now 2 weeks later im still taking the anadrol twice a day, but ive upped the sustanon to every other day.

im thinking about cutting out the anadrol in about a week or so. continuing with the sustanon and adding tren to the mix.

i plan on staying on the tren and sustanon for about 3 months.

my goal is to bulk up to about 210, and then throw winstrol into the mix after the 3 months and shred up.




realistic? or any tips or pointers?

thanks, anything helps.

[vcboss]

haha seriously?

kill yourself dude

[MeatHead85]

First 21 is a bit young. You can do irreversible damage to your endocrine system causing low T for the rest of your life. Second, if your coming back after an injury why risk hurting yourself again? Get your gains natural and solid up your training and diet first. Once all is back in good standing order check back.

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Damn it! Get out of here you piece of shit! No one is that stupid!

[vcboss]

lol yea good call, but lets remember the topic... haha please guys any help?

[MeatHead85]

Yeah I posted acomment before this clown jumped in.

[vcboss]

oh shit, thanks man, and yea i no.

im just seriously pissed at how much weight i lost, and dont wanna train for a year to get back to where i was.

with that said im keeping chest workouts light, using mainly cables, and very light bench.

[MeatHead85]

oh shit, thanks man, and yea i no.

im just seriously pissed at how much weight i lost, and dont wanna train for a year to get back to where i was.

with that said im keeping chest workouts light, using mainly cables, and very light bench.

I know how you feel. I pulled my AC.joint in my shoulder surfing 2 years ago now. I was in your shoes when I came back. Thing is you will be waisting your money cause most of your gains will be from being back and not all gear. If you just man up face the facts and hit it hard for awhile you will see great gains without the risk. Its a win win for you right now.

[vcboss]

i appreciate the tips, and not to sound like an arrogant ****, but will my described plan help me get to 210?

[MeatHead85]

Don't know enough about all your taking to give you an honest and true answer. Sorry brudah

[vcboss]

so i started juicing about 2 weeks ago starting with 25mg anadrol twice a day, and 1cc of sustanon350 twice a week.

now 2 weeks later im still taking the anadrol twice a day, but ive upped the sustanon to every other day.

im thinking about cutting out the anadrol in about a week or so. continuing with the sustanon and adding tren to the mix.

i plan on staying on the tren and sustanon for about 3 months.

my goal is to bulk up to about 210, and then throw winstrol into the mix after the 3 months and shred up.






now with that said, im eating like a horse, mainly chicken like 5 times a day.

i train pretty much everyday, but listen to my body.

im doing between 6-8 reps each set (to failure)

im not doing any cardio (i will when cutting time starts)

and i work on one muscle per day, with the exception of legs and abs, which i do usually every other day along with whatever muscle im working on.

[HellRiserPL]

man i'm 29 and that seem like a lot off stuff that you are taking. Take it easy u still got time to grow naturally b4 you start all that.
Wouldn't be better to get to the max naturally and than give it a nice kick with a cycle to go from good size and shape to crazy good .

[vcboss]

yea but i mean, i have friends my age who have been juicing for years, and there all massive.

i have some friends who are on hgh too. im not going to go that route yet, but i am going to juice regardless.

so please guys with that said can someone give me some help on the best cycle to do givin my age and my goals.

[The Bear 79]

yea but i mean, i have friends my age who have been juicing for years, and there all massive.

i have some friends who are on hgh too. im not going to go that route yet, but i am going to juice regardless.

so please guys with that said can someone give me some help on the best cycle to do givin my age and my goals.

The best cycle 4 u 2 do given ur age, NO CYCLE. Just learn 2 eat rite & train hard, you'll get there, b patient. BTW, ur friends r not smart, I guarantee @ least 1 if not all of them will hav hormone problems, if they don't already. When they end up TRT / HRT & cant get a hard on with a hand full of Viagra, maybe THEN, they will c ther error of their uneducated decision. DONT B LIKE THEM!!!

[HellRiserPL]

Just for that fact alone ( being sock like down there ) i think twice if not three or four times if i should do the cycle or not. But i think ill be safe cuz i never did that b4 Right now it goes up whenever i wan't and sometimes when i don't.

[vcboss]

good for you. no one wants to hear about your wrench.

[vcboss]

and like **** guys cmon, stop breaking my balls.

instead of telling me not to do juice, can someone please just tell me good cycles and the safest way to do them.

like if everyone cares so much , please give me some useful advice other then dont do it.

seriously , this is like some heroin addict telling me not to do heroin until im 40.

and again, not to sound like a dick or ingrate, but being told not to do it isnt gonna stop me.

i came on here for advice because im un-educated. i realize they're are risks involved but evidently i dont care about that.

so please, once again can someone who knows what there talking about please give me other advice other than dont do it, or your too young.

i know alot of you probally did juice at my age and like i said, im currently on juice and plan on staying on it until im 210.

so sorry for sounding like a dick, its just my sus. is running out, and im going to grab some short ester test with the tren in a couple of days unless someone

gives me a better cycle.

thanks alot, i really do appreciate everything, just please no more moms or dads.

[The Bear 79]

and like **** guys cmon, stop breaking my balls.

instead of telling me not to do juice, can someone please just tell me good cycles and the safest way to do them.

like if everyone cares so much , please give me some useful advice other then dont do it.

seriously , this is like some heroin addict telling me not to do heroin until im 40.

and again, not to sound like a dick or ingrate, but being told not to do it isnt gonna stop me.

i came on here for advice because im un-educated. i realize they're are risks involved but evidently i dont care about that.

so please, once again can someone who knows what there talking about please give me other advice other than dont do it, or your too young.

i know alot of you probally did juice at my age and like i said, im currently on juice and plan on staying on it until im 210.

so sorry for sounding like a dick, its just my sus. is running out, and im going to grab some short ester test with the tren in a couple of days unless someone

gives me a better cycle.

thanks alot, i really do appreciate everything, just please no more moms or dads.

Yeah that's a great fvckin plan...............well thought out. If u don't giv a god dam bout ur health or @ least care enuf 2 do some research, then y should we.........& don't tell me "I've done lots of research" cuz if u had, u would not b staying on a continuous cycle til 210 lbs. If u follow through with ur current (idiotic) plan, I promise, things will not end well 4 u. I don't care wut u WANT 2 hear, wut u NEED 2 hear is "don't do it, ur 2 yung"..............

[gearbox]

How stupid can someone be? Go look aroung this forum and see if anyone (even vets) are going on cycle for that long or stopping abomb to switch to tren mid cycle...its almost hilarious

[vcboss]

thats why i came here, everyone ive talked to tells me thats not a problem.

[JohnnyVegas]

You might want to read the stickies (I think they say IMPORTANT in red) so you can learn the basics. Basically, your current plan has a high risk and a probable low return.

[The Bear 79]

thats why i came here, everyone ive talked to tells me thats not a problem.

Ever1 you've talked 2 is an inexperienced, unknowledgable , dangerous, idiot. Again, @ ur age, u shouldn't b using steroids, & certainly never as long as purposed. PLEASE, drop the gear & tak som time diet & training advice man, ur on a 100 mph collision course with disaster rite now..................

[songdog]

Plain and simple Bro we dont offer cycle advice to anyone under the age of 24.Due to the health risks.You got a lot to learn lets hope you dont do it the hard way.You injure yourself then jump on the juice.DUMB you see your friends doing it and they seem ok.Well sometimes it takes a while tren isnt a rookie thing.The best advise I can give you is get new friends and listen to the advice you were givin.

[gixxerboy1]

i cant believe how much shit you are injecting. more isnt always better. I agree you shoudn't be using anything but what you are doing is just plain abuse.
at 21 you are old enough to know better then just randomly take pills and inject what ever you can find at what ever dose you feel like. There are serious consequences

[songdog]

Gixx now come on aint you ever heard of the problem child.

[Jean Claude]

Taking sust 350 ED or EOD.... isn't that kind of a lot? Maybe twice a week I'd think. Or once.

[vcboss]

im takeing the sus 350 eod. i just did my first shot of tren today aswell. i plan on doing that eod when i take the sus.

so someone said something about dropping out the a bombs mid cycle? i was under the impression, that i should only take the anadrols until my juice kicks in? no?

anyways guys i appreciate all the help, after my two bottles of tren are done, im going to go on hcg. and then not cycle again for a couple years.

with that said can someone please help me as to what i should do exactly at this point. heres what ive done up to date.

50mg anadrol ed for 3 weeks.

sus350 eod for 2 and a half weeks.

just did my first shot of tren earlier in the morning.


i have access to anything so please let me no what i should do at this point in time. so far ive had zero side effects, no mood swings, no acne, no sore joints. nothing. however i had made substantial strength and size gains so i fear i may become addicted to the juice and thats why im deciding to stop after this cycle.

thanks for the help everyone, and i appreciate any advice!

[vcboss]

thats why i came on here, everyone ive talked to at local gyms or my friends who have been juicing for a while tell me "trens the shit" and "do your tren everyday"
"take more test than tren, tren might effect your hammer" you no what im saying? and these are guys who are beasts so i mean i listened to them. like i said ive allready started. so now i just need advice on what to do from here.

[The Bear 79]

The best advice I can give as far as wut u should do from here, is STOP NOW & PCT....................just bcuz u hav already started, doesn't justify u continuing. Smarten up man, or u may regret it..............

[JohnnyVegas]

with that said can someone please help me as to what i should do exactly at this point.

You shouldn't just randomly inject drugs at random doses.

If I was you, I would stop and PCT.

[slfmade]

Anyone else ever wish they could just reach through the screen and bitch-slap someone, grab them by the ears and shake some sense into them?

[The Bear 79]

Anyone else ever wish they could just reach through the screen and bitch-slap someone, grab them by the ears and shake some sense into them?

....... ..........bout as close as ur gona get pal.

[slfmade]

LOL...Nice Bear. You see this is one of those Newbie's that you just can't play the "nice guy" card with.

[The Bear 79]

LOL...Nice Bear. You see this is one of those Newbie's that you just can't play the "nice guy" card with.

Well he hasn't sed anything that warrants a "thrashing" he's just being dangerously stubborn. U cant win em all, all I can do is remain persistent in my efforts.

[slfmade]

Well he hasn't sed anything that warrants a "thrashing" he's just being dangerously stubborn. U cant win em all, all I can do is remain persistent in my efforts.

Nope! He's obviously not listening to anyone. I agree that "thrashing" him isn't going to help, but a good ass kicking would!

Somebody needs to call his momma!!!!

[UnderRated2010]

hahaha. i love how some people will just blindly follow anyone bigger than them cause they "must" know what they are doing. haha. its ridiculous