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    2012 DI College Lacrosse Player

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    175lbs
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    3 years of lifting experience
    13% bf

    I'm going to be playing NCAA DI lacrosse this coming year and want to get a head start on the other players. I'm athletic but I need to become stronger and more quick. I play attack, so I can't gain water weight that will slow me down, but I want to get up to about 185lbs cut. I have looked into Anavar because it has low androgenic effect and is good for strengthening lean muscle fibers, but since I need to gain as well, what should I look into? I am not 100% sure if I have stopped growing so I want something that will not have much of an effect on my epiphyseal plates.

    Basically, what is a steroid cycle I could take that I would gain lean muscle on with few(er) sides that won't close epiphyseal plates, yet will give me a good advantage on the field. And I only want to take it until August.

    Thanks.

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    A good diet at your age is all that is needed and a good tra.ining regime

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    Quote Originally Posted by laxr7 View Post
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    18 years old
    175lbs
    5'9
    3 years of lifting experience
    13% bf

    I'm going to be playing NCAA DI lacrosse this coming year and want to get a head start on the other players. I'm athletic but I need to become stronger and more quick. I play attack, so I can't gain water weight that will slow me down, but I want to get up to about 185lbs cut. I have looked into Anavar because it has low androgenic effect and is good for strengthening lean muscle fibers, but since I need to gain as well, what should I look into? I am not 100% sure if I have stopped growing so I want something that will not have much of an effect on my epiphyseal plates.

    Basically, what is a steroid cycle I could take that I would gain lean muscle on with few(er) sides that won't close epiphyseal plates, yet will give me a good advantage on the field. And I only want to take it until August.

    Thanks.
    I'm glad 2 c that u know of this potential side effect. Just how much do u know about it tho? Do u know anything about the potentially irreversible side effects steroids can hav on ur undeveloped HPTA @ ur age?

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    U will get bigger and faster and stronger with the program they have at ur school. Just work hard and u will b fine.
    I know exactly what ur feeling and it just shows u care to succeed. I played football In college, just eat and eat and eat. You are reaching the peak of growth don't ruin it by going on aas.
    Us old geezers use aas to get back to what you hav barely began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    U will get bigger and faster and stronger with the program they have at ur school. Just work hard and u will b fine.
    I know exactly what ur feeling and it just shows u care to succeed. I played football In college, just eat and eat and eat. You are reaching the peak of growth don't ruin it by going on aas.
    Us old geezers use aas to get back to what you hav barely began.
    HA!! Well put, & true.

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    you've a tonne of natty test at your age, i grew like a weed and gained strength like crazy when i was 18. get a good diet nailed down and stick to it. use good supps like creatine, HMB etc.

    you could end up doing the reverse of what you're looking for by using AAS because you have to come off them, and what goes up must come down. you could also screw up your natural system and end up with depression, limp dick, low or no libido etc

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    I am most likely not going to take AAS, but I am still curious about Anavar's effects on someone my age. I know it has a high Anabolic:Androgenic Ratio (300:20-ish) and it doesn't aromatize like dbol and such. And it is supposed to have very little and sometimes no effect on the HPTA (hypothalmic-pituitary-testicular-axis), and it is also approved for usage on children of short stature meaning it does not effect one's epiphyseal plates. I have done a fair amount of research on it and feel it would be the safest choice, because like DEC11 said "what comes up must come down" and since Anavar does not effect testosterone to a great extent I think that there would be little side effects when coming off.

    I consume between 4000 and 4500 calories a day and work out 5-6 days a week with both practice and our school run mandatory 2 hour workout. I also do yoga once a week to improve my flexibility. I also drink 2 protein shakes of 52g per shake daily and am taking creatine monohydrate as well. I bust my ass everyday but I want more improvement, because to be honest I don't feel I deserve the scholarship I have been given so I don't want to ride the bench for 2 of my 4 years. Any advantage I can get that will put me on the field I am willing to fight for.

    Thank you all for your input, it has really helped! I hope you guys have more to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laxr7 View Post
    I am most likely not going to take AAS, but I am still curious about Anavar's effects on someone my age. I know it has a high Anabolic:Androgenic Ratio (300:20-ish) and it doesn't aromatize like dbol and such. And it is supposed to have very little and sometimes no effect on the HPTA (hypothalmic-pituitary-testicular-axis), and it is also approved for usage on children of short stature meaning it does not effect one's epiphyseal plates. I have done a fair amount of research on it and feel it would be the safest choice, because like DEC11 said "what comes up must come down" and since Anavar does not effect testosterone to a great extent I think that there would be little side effects when coming off.

    I consume between 4000 and 4500 calories a day and work out 5-6 days a week with both practice and our school run mandatory 2 hour workout. I also do yoga once a week to improve my flexibility. I also drink 2 protein shakes of 52g per shake daily and am taking creatine monohydrate as well. I bust my ass everyday but I want more improvement, because to be honest I don't feel I deserve the scholarship I have been given so I don't want to ride the bench for 2 of my 4 years. Any advantage I can get that will put me on the field I am willing to fight for.

    Thank you all for your input, it has really helped! I hope you guys have more to say.
    'sometimes' is the key word and everyones 'extent' is different, its a gamble plain and simple, i ended up on trt and i only started aas at 31, because you arent fully developed, you are at GREATER risk. i competed plifting at a high standard for 16yrs and continued to make natty gains into my early 30's. you can also.

    layout one days diet for us to we see where these 4000-4500 cals are coming from, cause atm im 225lbs and can tell you im not eating anywhere near 4500cals
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    Quote Originally Posted by laxr7 View Post
    I am most likely not going to take AAS, but I am still curious about Anavar's effects on someone my age. I know it has a high Anabolic:Androgenic Ratio (300:20-ish) and it doesn't aromatize like dbol and such. And it is supposed to have very little and sometimes no effect on the HPTA (hypothalmic-pituitary-testicular-axis), and it is also approved for usage on children of short stature meaning it does not effect one's epiphyseal plates. I have done a fair amount of research on it and feel it would be the safest choice, because like DEC11 said "what comes up must come down" and since Anavar does not effect testosterone to a great extent I think that there would be little side effects when coming off.

    I consume between 4000 and 4500 calories a day and work out 5-6 days a week with both practice and our school run mandatory 2 hour workout. I also do yoga once a week to improve my flexibility. I also drink 2 protein shakes of 52g per shake daily and am taking creatine monohydrate as well. I bust my ass everyday but I want more improvement, because to be honest I don't feel I deserve the scholarship I have been given so I don't want to ride the bench for 2 of my 4 years. Any advantage I can get that will put me on the field I am willing to fight for.

    Thank you all for your input, it has really helped! I hope you guys have more to say.
    Support these claims please....................

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    i also dont understand why a lacrosse player would need/want AAS

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    Kid, you don't need to juice yet. I understand that you're going to be playing for a D1 Lacrosse program, and congratulations on that but there is no need for you to juice. You've made it onto a D1 squad WITHOUT the need to juice. You still have plenty of room to grow in various fields including strength, speed, and lax skills go and I'm sure you'll continue to improve being coached at a D1 Program.

    My old highschool bred d1 lacrosse and football players and I was one of those guys. I chose football over lax but alot of my friends went D1 in lax, my brother graduated recently and they had one of the top classes of D1 recruits in the nation. The kids there, as far as the lax team went never juiced and im positive of that because they weren't the strongest kids but they certainly were some of the fastest. Speed kills and speed is just like strength, you just gotta keep training to improve in both of them and you can do it naturally.There isn't a need for you to be juicing for lax a this point, just get yourself a trainer during the off-season and summer going into freshman year of college, you'll be fine. As long as you're willing to bust your ass and give full dedication to your craft, there is no reason why you shouldn't be one of the or theee best freshman in your incoming class of laxers bros. (sry..just had to say it lol)

    Good luck and keep working hard.

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    When Searle Laboratories first developed Anavar, their plan was to create a drug safe enough for patients with osteoporosis and children with growth delay due to hormone insufficiency. At present though, Anavar is being used to address muscle wasting due to chronic low energy diseases such as HIV infection

    "Twenty boys and 7 girls aged 3 7/12 to 17 years were treated with oxandrolone during the second 6 months of an 18 or 24 month period. Measurements of length and skeletal age were made at the beginning and at 6 month intervals. The daily dose was 0.05 mg. per kilogram (7 patients), 0.1 mg. per kilogram (13 patients), or 0.2 mg. per kilogram (7 patients). Predictions for mature height at the beginning of the study were compared with those at the end of the treatment period and at 6 to 12 months after termination of treatment. Responses were similar on all 3 doses. In all but 4 children the rate of increase in height age was increased during treatment. Increments in skeletal age were accelerated more than those in height age during the 6 months following treatment. Eight children had a decrease of predicted mature height ranging from 1.5 to 7.5 cm. When oxandrolone medication was given to children whose bone age was at least 9 years, there was no evidence of a deleterious effect on predicted mature height." - The Journal of Pediatrics.

    And here's what I ate today

    Breakfast (6:45-8:00)
    Green Goodness Smoothie (for bus ride)
    Bowl Flax Plus Pumpkin Cereal w/ whole milk
    An entire tub of Nelson’s black cherry yogurt (lol)
    2 pieces peanut butter on toast
    3 Eggs over-easy
    3 strips maple bacon
    Protein Shake
    Tropicana juice (2 glasses)
    Apple (on bus)

    Snack (10-10:45 ish)
    ~30 dried mango pieces
    Baby Carrots
    Caesar Salad w/ grilled chicken (full size made at home)
    Cherry Yop
    Powerbar (brownie one)
    Pack of welches fruit snacks

    Lunch (12:30- 1:20; made by school, usually pretty healthy)
    3 Chicken breasts
    Caesar salad (again :P)
    Veggies and dip
    Montreal Smoked beef sandwich
    2 glasses chocolate milk
    Protein Shake w/creatine

    Snack #2 (4:00ish; with friends)
    Subway oven-roasted chicken breast (12”)
    Minutemaid Lemonade
    Veggie Thins

    Dinner (6:00)
    14oz sirloin steak
    Garlic bread w/ cheese
    Mashed potatoes with gravy
    2 glasses of milk

    Snack #3 (9-11:00)
    PB&J sandwich x2
    2 Organic poptart things from Costco
    2 Naan bread with balsamic and olive oil
    2 packs of Welches fruit snacks
    Banana

    And thanks HULK54. Lacrosse isn't much of a juicing sport, and that's kind of why I thought it would give me an (unfair) advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laxr7 View Post
    When Searle Laboratories first developed Anavar, their plan was to create a drug safe enough for patients with osteoporosis and children with growth delay due to hormone insufficiency. At present though, Anavar is being used to address muscle wasting due to chronic low energy diseases such as HIV infection

    "Twenty boys and 7 girls aged 3 7/12 to 17 years were treated with oxandrolone during the second 6 months of an 18 or 24 month period. Measurements of length and skeletal age were made at the beginning and at 6 month intervals. The daily dose was 0.05 mg. per kilogram (7 patients), 0.1 mg. per kilogram (13 patients), or 0.2 mg. per kilogram (7 patients). Predictions for mature height at the beginning of the study were compared with those at the end of the treatment period and at 6 to 12 months after termination of treatment. Responses were similar on all 3 doses. In all but 4 children the rate of increase in height age was increased during treatment. Increments in skeletal age were accelerated more than those in height age during the 6 months following treatment. Eight children had a decrease of predicted mature height ranging from 1.5 to 7.5 cm. When oxandrolone medication was given to children whose bone age was at least 9 years, there was no evidence of a deleterious effect on predicted mature height." - The Journal of Pediatrics.
    Where did u find this study, I'd like 2 read more.............

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