Early Signs of Gyno? pic attached

[aasthetic]

Hi everyone,

im unsure if im having early signs of gyno or just being paranoid.

i started my FIRST EVER cycle being test prop last Wednesday (7 days ago) at 150mgs EOD.

my nipples are usually smaller/harder but have sinced noticed them getting a little bigger, softer and puffier and changed shape to more of an oval.

they arent sore or itchy, and there are no lumps but the skin on my chest and stomach has become more senstive (i do have unusally dry skin though) could i just be over thinking things? looking forward to your oppinons - please find attached a photo?

PS im not currently taking nolva/arimidex as iv been told at my age (22) and the amount of test im doing (525mg per week) that there is no point.

[DanB]

Hi everyone,

im unsure if im having early signs of gyno or just being paranoid.

i started my FIRST EVER cycle being test prop last Wednesday (7 days ago) at 150mgs EOD.

my nipples are usually smaller/harder but have sinced noticed them getting a little bigger, softer and puffier and changed shape to more of an oval.

they arent sore or itchy, and there are no lumps but the skin on my chest and stomach has become more senstive (i do have unusally dry skin though) could i just be over thinking things? looking forward to your oppinons - please find attached a photo?

PS im not currently taking nolva/arimidex as iv been told at my age (22) and the amount of test im doing (525mg per week) that there is no point.

who told you this? terrible advice, .5mg adex eod to prevent aromatisation, do you have a pct or did same person tell you there is no point in this either?

[DanB]

also sounds like could just be water retention and not gyno but id still take the adex, whats your bodyfat?


just looked at pic, your bodyfat looks quite high mate which will increase risks of side effects especially gyno, do you understand the risks your taking in cycling or did you just jump on with little or no research?

[aasthetic]

also sounds like could just be water retention and not gyno but id still take the adex, whats your bodyfat?


just looked at pic, your bodyfat looks quite high mate which will increase risks of side effects especially gyno, do you understand the risks your taking in cycling or did you just jump on with little or no research?

i used to do muay thai so my bodyfat would have hoverd at around 9% it has now shot up to about 16% since bulking

i definately did do my research, and learned alot about AAS throughout uni. the guy who told me has been cycling for over 30yrs (he is 61, and still competes)

PS does it look like beginning of gyno? or do you think it may be a factor of the increased water retention and bf %?

[ghettoboyd]

its hard to tell bro but it looks like you started cycling with high body fat so maybee if you are gyno prone id at least start taking some a-dex to counter the sides your experiencing...that whole crap you have been fed about not needing it has nothing to do with your age or dose so stop listening to peeps who have no clue what they are talking about...you really shouldent have started so young bro imho...goodluck im out...

[DanB]

so he gives old school advice, they used to amputate limbs years ago now they save them, times change, it is now understood that an a.i. is always needed on pct and usually encouraged to use on cycle also where as in his day this may not of been common, do you have a pct? anyways .5mg adex eod is what your needing

[aasthetic]

yes i have PCT sorted already, Pregnyl and Nolvadex . Its very easy to get arimidex so il start that tomorrow.

how do you know if you are prone to gyno? iv never suffered anything relating to it in my life?

[DanB]

estrogen levels, genetics, bodyfat all play a role, while you cant change genetics you can lower bodyfat and control estrogen, hence why people here advise a low bodyfat (not only gyno but other sides like high bp) and an a.i. on cycle to minimize chances, hcg is generally not used for pct but on cycle, a clomid and nolva pct may be more effective for you

[auslifta]

Bad advice on no AI, You've made some bad choices mate, I hope it works out ok for you.

[aasthetic]

thanks everyone, if this is infact the beginning of gyno at these early stages is it reversable?

[The Bear 79]

thanks everyone, if this is infact the beginning of gyno at these early stages is it reversable?

If u catch it ealy enuf it CAN b reversible. BTW, I'd stop everything rite now, cycling @ ur age significantly increases the risk of doing potentially irreversible damage 2 ur undeveloped Endocrine & HPTA, u could end up on HRT or TRT 4 LIFE!

[SEOINAGE]

Seriously, I would stop now, also judging by your picture you have a lot of room for improvement naturally that you should take advantage of.

[jasc]

Hard to tell by the pic, but they do look a little irregular n puffy. My nips pull the same bs if I don't use an AI or I forget a dose or 2. An AI should correct this, if not use Nolva. Then use an AI throughout to prevent it from coming back.
If you had onset gyno you'd know. Push down on your nipple, If you can feel a small pea shaped lump thats painful when pushed, your friend gyno has shown up. If not, start using an AI to prevent it

[Gi812Many]

His body fat is to high???? I can not see his whole body but he is anything but having to high of body fat....I would like to know when this trend started of having 8% bf before you use AAS....As far as the gyno issue, not very hard to detect if your getting gyno..There is an obvious change in the glands around your nipple area, your body will tell you everything. It could be what people call those pee size lumps to larger areas extending past the nipple area. As far as reversing gyno, you can at nearly any stage. My experience and body chemistry, an AI doesnt do shit for reversing my gyno or keeping me from getting gyno. I need something that is more specific to the breast tissue, Nolvadex . Regardless of the stage, which I have been late in a gyno stage....40mgs/daily for two weeks and then running 20mgs/daily reverses mine and keeps it away. But, I also stay on Aromasin as well for other estrogen related issues.

[The Bear 79]

His body fat is to high???? I can not see his whole body but he is anything but having to high of body fat....I would like to know when this trend started of having 8% bf before you use AAS....As far as the gyno issue, not very hard to detect if your getting gyno..There is an obvious change in the glands around your nipple area, your body will tell you everything. It could be what people call those pee size lumps to larger areas extending past the nipple area. As far as reversing gyno, you can at nearly any stage. My experience and body chemistry, an AI doesnt do shit for reversing my gyno or keeping me from getting gyno. I need something that is more specific to the breast tissue, Nolvadex. Regardless of the stage, which I have been late in a gyno stage....40mgs/daily for two weeks and then running 20mgs/daily reverses mine and keeps it away. But, I also stay on Aromasin as well for other estrogen related issues.

There's never been a "trend" of having 8% BF b4 u cycle, in fact no1 has even sed it once, the recommended BF is 15% or less, & that's not unreasonable, if u don't care enuf 4 urself & ur health 2 drum up enuf dedication 2 achieve & maintain 15% BF or less naturally, then steroids aren't 4 u.

[ucf465]

looks like just puffy nipple to me. bf to high

[ucf465]

His body fat is to high???? I can not see his whole body but he is anything but having to high of body fat....I would like to know when this trend started of having 8% bf before you use AAS....As far as the gyno issue, not very hard to detect if your getting gyno..There is an obvious change in the glands around your nipple area, your body will tell you everything. It could be what people call those pee size lumps to larger areas extending past the nipple area. As far as reversing gyno, you can at nearly any stage. My experience and body chemistry, an AI doesnt do shit for reversing my gyno or keeping me from getting gyno. I need something that is more specific to the breast tissue, Nolvadex. Regardless of the stage, which I have been late in a gyno stage....40mgs/daily for two weeks and then running 20mgs/daily reverses mine and keeps it away. But, I also stay on Aromasin as well for other estrogen related issues.

its no trend just safe practices. i give 200 mg a week to fat guys at my pharmacy all the time and it seems to be ok for them but the higher the dose, the higher the risk, the higher the chance for bad sides. soooo less bf is def optimal for BB AAS use

[aasthetic]

thanks for your replies everyone, i feel my first photo may have been a little misleading, please see below photos (i havnt exactly measured bf i would assume its 15% - thoughts?

[The Bear 79]

Wut r ur stats bro? Looks 2 me like u don't hav much of a foundation, not bashin u man, just sayin u look pretty skinny. BTW, just a suggestion, but u mite wana do urself a favor, & take ur face off the website where u openly admit 2 purchasing & using illegal anabolic steroids ................I'm just sayin.

[aasthetic]

thanks bear i apreciate your help.

im 22, weight is 90kg and im 6ft 3
squat: 120kg
bench: 90kg (weak chest)

i platued for about a year which is why i started AAS, i am an extreme ectomorph

any other figures you wanted to know?

[The Bear 79]

How tall r u?

[aasthetic]

6ft 3 - 192cm

[The Bear 79]

Well if my math is rite, ur just under 200 lbs. by about 5 lbs. or so, which isn't too bad for 6'-3", u just look awful skinny bro.

[aasthetic]

Well if my math is rite, ur just under 200 lbs. by about 5 lbs. or so, which isn't too bad for 6'-3", u just look awful skinny bro.

ouch! if you think that is skinny, you should have seen when i was fighting at 72kg (muay thai) but i am sick of being skinny, and i have a complex about it as ive been skinny all my life.

to be honest they are the only pics i have they are quite old the most recent one is the lat pull down photo which was taken pre-cycle

[The Bear 79]

Sorry bro, like I sed, not bashin on ya, its just an observation.

[aasthetic]

no thats fine, i apreciate your feedback - thanks alot for your help.

I have a dr apointment booked fingers crossed its just from the excess bf and water retention

if were the early stages of gyno what course of action would u take in regards to nolva and adex? as i will pick up both today

[Ashop]

You should be using some type of anti E such as an AI like ARIMIDEX or AROMASIN .

[The Bear 79]

no thats fine, i apreciate your feedback - thanks alot for your help.

I have a dr apointment booked fingers crossed its just from the excess bf and water retention

if were the early stages of gyno what course of action would u take in regards to nolva and adex? as i will pick up both today

I would go with the Nolva. Studies hav proven its ability 2 reverse gyno.

[aasthetic]

I would go with the Nolva. Studies hav proven its ability 2 reverse gyno.

thanks so much

[aasthetic]

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[wmaousley]

I get Gyno damn near every cycle and you dont have it............

[aasthetic]

I get Gyno damn near every cycle and you dont have it............

thanks for your input, im happy to report that after seeing the doctor i dont have any signs of gyno, im holding a little extra water rate due to the test prop and im just being a little paranoid due to this being my first cycle.

however, everything happens for a reason and il start using an AI EOD

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[Honkey_Kong]

thanks for your input, im happy to report that after seeing the doctor i dont have any signs of gyno, im holding a little extra water rate due to the test prop and im just being a little paranoid due to this being my first cycle.

however, everything happens for a reason and il start using an AI EOD

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You told the doc you were cycling?

[sick]

You told the doc you were cycling?

nothing wrong with telling your doc anything, they cant disclose anything to any one unless you give them permission, when i was in my teens i would tell my doc all the illegal substances i would take and he would just advice. im actually going in to the docs office tomorrow for BW and to see what he thinks of my cycle, my Doc is mad chill tho.