Looking a for an experienced user to take me under their wing. Pics up in a few

[msquires]

Hey guys! Whats going downnn!?
I think I'm ideal candidate for steroids. I've been very dedicated since I was 17. (currently 28) Ive been pretty much the same weight the last 5 years. I'm pretty sure that's all the clean weight I can pack on without adding b.f. I don't have a gf or kids and really have nothing in my life that's going to intterupt my training. Reason for cycle isn't for anyone but myself.

In Morning all cold Current Stats
5'8
174lbs (I have gotten up to before 186 with a very high cal diet but its was all fat I look at pics now and I bet I was at 15% b.f like a fluffy cloud)
b.f. guessin 9-10%
Bench 320 1 rep
Squat 415 6xs
Arms 15.5"
gluets 39.5"
shoulder girth 47"
waist 31"
Quad 24"

To me a successfull cycle would be to gain 15lbs of muscle an keep 10lbs of it. I'd like to focus on getting broader shoulders and a thicker back/neck. all while keeping a lean look.

Im thinking a 10 wk cycle of test cyp or enth 250 at 500mg/w followed by pct 10/mg ed nolva and clomid 2 weeks after last injec

I know this maybe selffish asking for someone to reach out an help me out but I'd like to share my experience with it and any advice would be appreciated and what kind of gains someone like me can expect to see giving the info I have posted.

thanks a lot in advance

[msquires]

Hey guys so I just took a pic of me now.
First pic is me at 174lbs(current)
In the ab pic thats me on a cutting diet weighing in at 168lbs .

Also I do a very labour intense job and as my career and that with a high motabolism makes it even harder to gain size. an when i say size I mean clean stuff.

[msquires]

Amazing what lighting/shadows will do. lol

[TwoGuns]

edited cuz i are retard

[msquires]

are you implying that these pics aren't me? i assure you they are.. Im flexin in one an not in the other plus diet an lighting. pics are kind of irrelevent anyway. just letting you guys know what Im working with.

[TwoGuns]

omg i am retarded!!! totally mis read this . look lean dood gl

[msquires]

lol.. no worries mister. same to you bro. GL

[xelnaga]

Take face off pics. It may not matter now, but it may matter later.

[msquires]

good point

[xelnaga]

There are many benefits to an open forum. Reaching out for one guy to give you advice is not... advisable. Its always good to get a 2nd or 3rd opinion on any question or issue that may arise.

[msquires]

The more the better!

[rippedfromabove]

Ok i will like to help you.. Did you consider adding hcg to your cycle?

[10nispro]

I would also run the HCG and have an AI available just in case sides arise.

I would increase the nolva and Clomid dosages for your pct as well

[msquires]

I just read an article on it it seems to be useful stuff. correct me if im wrong but what I got out of it is. it helps raise T levels and is treatment for testicle shrinkage.
but ideally i'd like to keep my cycle less cost effective. I'll deff consider it thought thanks! ripped!

[msquires]

I just read an article on it it seems to be useful stuff. correct me if im wrong but what I got out of it is. it helps raise T levels and is treatment for testicle shrinkage.
but ideally i'd like to keep my cycle less cost effective. I'll deff consider it thought thanks! ripped!

[msquires]

If i raise it up to 20mg ed would that be sufficient?

[gearbox]

That means about 140 a wk. Standard first cycle test only to build muscle is about 400mg.

[msquires]

ya i waas just reading and i found that 40mg eventually bringing it back down to 20 mgs. I think i'm ready to make an order!

[chuckt12345]

I just read an article on it it seems to be useful stuff. correct me if im wrong but what I got out of it is. it helps raise T levels and is treatment for testicle shrinkage.
but ideally i'd like to keep my cycle less cost effective. I'll deff consider it thought thanks! ripped!

i wouldnt run HCG on basic first test cycle. i really dont see the point unless you already have it.

[rippedfromabove]

You def dont need it.. And 500mg of test is good. Keep it like that

[dec11]

i wouldnt run HCG on basic first test cycle. i really dont see the point unless you already have it.

better safe than i sorry i reckon, we dont know how shut down will affect him

[rippedfromabove]

Its not even that expensive compared to being on trt for life.. Better safe than sorry

[msquires]

nnnnn

[rippedfromabove]

No help from sources on here!

[dec11]

ya I havent checked out prices simply because Im un aware of where to buy them. Im sure i will find a good source with some more research an maybe a little help

read the rules man, no fishing rods permitted

[The Bear 79]

Ok i will like to help you.. Did you consider adding hcg to your cycle?

You def dont need it.. And 500mg of test is good. Keep it like that

Its not even that expensive compared to being on trt for life.. Better safe than sorry

Mak up ur dam mind will ya................& if u don't hav a mind of ur own 2 mak up, dont just follow every1 elses lead.............educate urself & mak up ur OWN dam mind.

[The Bear 79]

ya I havent checked out prices simply because Im un aware of where to buy them. Im sure i will find a good source with some more research an maybe a little help

I would remove this post bro, if the scammers catch wind of it, u will b bombarded with sh!t stains tryin 2 steal ur $$$$!

[rippedfromabove]

Mak up ur dam mind will ya................& if u don't hav a mind of ur own 2 mak up, dont just follow every1 elses lead.............educate urself & mak up ur OWN dam mind.

Im not.. he said he doesnt have money for it, so i was like ok.. But then i realised his age..

[msquires]

ya im a little confused you experianced guys think i should pick up hcg?

[The Bear 79]

ya im a little confused you experianced guys think i should pick up hcg?

I don't know where the line is drawn as far as when u need HCG & when u don't. But I know it couldn't hurt, it will defiantly help with a successful recovery.

[msquires]

Thanks Bear I'll be including it in my cycle. Gonna go do some more detailed research on it

[msquires]

HCG drops reccomended?

[xelnaga]

No because its not HCG.

[msquires]

shits expensive!

[The Bear 79]

No because its not HCG.

^^^x2^^^ It even sez rite on the box "Hormone Free" or "Contains no Hormones" the real stuff isn't hard 2 find bro.

[Far from massive]

I really can't understand why anyone would not use HCG on any cycle. Sure the need is a lot greater on a 16wk Tren/Deca cycle than a 10 wk Test E cycle but since the stuff is dirt cheap and always beneficial its always a great idea to run it. One thing it will do is to help speed recovery which in turn will help maintain gains so if maintaining gains is a concern then you should always use it on every cycle.

[msquires]

Right on.. I really appreciate your guys help. Nice to know I can find it cheap.

[The Bear 79]

shits expensive!

Well then ur dealin with a bad source. Its actually pretty cheap. Keep lookin round.

[gearbox]

I really can't understand why anyone would not use HCG on any cycle. Sure the need is a lot greater on a 16wk Tren/Deca cycle than a 10 wk Test E cycle but since the stuff is dirt cheap and always beneficial its always a great idea to run it. One thing it will do is to help speed recovery which in turn will help maintain gains so if maintaining gains is a concern then you should always use it on every cycle.

agreed, and yes it is that simple.

[msquires]

So I take it with nolva? its would look like

2 weeks after last injection ...HCG 500iu ed for 2 weeks along with nolvdex 50mg ed tappering off