New Member; signed up for expert advice regarding a PH cycle (Long post)

[Comeback79]

Please go easy on me everyone I am putting a lot of time into this first post so it won't be viewed as Trolled. I am a 32 year old guy who has been an on and off heavy lifter for since age 16. I am looking to make a nice comeback into the fitness world and hopefully stay here this time. Unfortunately my old heavy weight lifting days has torn up my rotator cuff, years boxing has really really messed up my lower back and I am really going to try to dial in my diet and training. I am going to list the names of the chemicals I have in my possession and would like for you to advise/help me adjust from here on out before I begin.

Main prohormone: Beastdrol (Superdrol clone): 10mg serving of 2a, 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol and 500mg of L-Carnintine L-Tartrate

PCT: Post Cycle Forged containing: 3,4 Divanillytetrahydrofuran, Chrysin, Fenugreek, Longjack, Tribulus Terrestris PE 60/20, Hesperidin, Cissus Quadrangularis (5% Ketosteroids) Indole-3-Carbonate

Bridge: Cassis Grandis, Phosphatydl Serine, Fadogia Aggrestis, Alpha GPC, EGCG, Resveratrol, Euricoma Longifolia root, Muira Puama, Pregenolone

Finally a product called N2Guard (Liver support)- Pretty self explanatory including the major Milk thistle and many other healthy components like Apple Pectin which I think is great for healthy cholesterol..which I will need.

OK to my cycle plans:
Week 1: 30mg Beastdrol, N2guard
Week 2: 30mg Beastdrol, N2guard
Week3: 30mg Beastdrol, N2guard
Week4: 30mg Beastdrol, N2guard, Post cycle PCT
Week5: N2guard, Post cycle, Bridge
Week6: N2guard, post cycle, bridge
Week 7: N2guard, post cycle, bridge
Week 8: N2guard, post cycle, bridge
Week 9: 30mg Beastdrol, N2guard
Week 10: 30mg Beastdrol, N2guard
Week 11: 30mg Beastdrol, N2guard
Week 12: 30mg Beastdrol, N2guard
Week 12-16: N2guard and Post Cycle.

Finally I am going to give my rational and then my concerns that I need help understanding. The superdrol clone is very potent and I have run it before with good results but didn't really have the best mental state to fully commit to a proper cycle like I do now (crap marriage, injuries, you name it). The big concerns are obviously the liver toxicity and the HDL decline. 4 weeks seems well tolerated by me and 4 weeks off should be safe to run another 4 weeks as some MORE experienced users run 6 weeks no problem. This is the only liver toxic supplement I am running so I THINK running this is fine 2x since I am taking 4 weeks off. I am not very familiar with the "Bridge" product so I am hoping others can chime in here but it is supposed to help keep gains while "bridging" to the next cycle. N2Guard looks very promising and as such I will be running it throughout.

Concerns: Not too concerned about liver toxicity giving the n2guard and the relatively "normal" dosage and length running the Beastdrol but am open to hearing from you. I am mostly concerned with the effect Beastdrol has on HDL decline. My HDL was tested during a previous cycle at single digits! However I hear this is normal for designer steroids . LOW HDL increases cardiac risk from what I am aware but does 4 week blast spurts really endanger you? Finally, are the ingredients in the Post Cycle sufficient for...well post cycle!

Thanks for reading the long post and I look forward to constructive feedback. Great site.

[ottomaddox]

forget all that crap and get some testosterone . Designer steroids Like those are garbage. You'll do more harm than good.

[dec11]

forget all that crap and get some testosterone. Designer steroids Like those are garbage. You'll do more harm than good.

just what i was about to post lol

[Comeback79]

I really am looking for advice on what I wrote specifically. I already have everything and if you think there are better options, at least contribute to THIS as a form of Harm Reduction if anything. I don't have access to test and this is what I got. Thanks.

[gearbox]

what are your stats and what are your goals?

[gixxerboy1]

I agree with the other guys but if you are going to run it then you at minimum need a real pct. The otc pct drugs are useless.

and you need more time off between runs

[dec11]

i honestly wouldnt waste my money on it, arent all those PH's now pretty much useless compared to the originals from afew years back?

the very name 'beastdrol' just has BS written all over it imo

[Comeback79]

Dec I am surprised you don't know about Superdrol being that it is a drug profile on this very website. No it is basically methylated Masteron . It is very real. Vets on this very forum from my own research have said that though it is liver toxic like any other oral, it gives very hard dry gains. This is the real deal and why I am very carefully and prudently trying to do this right before I begin.

Regarding "Proper" PCT; I have researched this and the PCT of today tends to be looked favourably with some circles of people familiar with designer steroids ; but I am not sensing this at all from the forums. However, before I scrap it, I want to make sure it isn't being scrapped from people just assuming designer steroids of today are crap scams...as they are some of the most potent steroids available.

Regarding stats, 32, 190lbs, 12%bf 16inch arms cold, 34 waist would like to get to back to my "old self" of about 210lbs, 17 inch arms, 32 waist 48 chest.

Thanks everyone. Does anyone know more about my concern with low HDL? It is common with almost every designer steroid (not necessarily prohormone, but designer steroid). I am very familiar with Nolva/Clomid and can go that route for PCT IF people can really chime in here with good advice on why PCT is not sufficient. From my research, it is a bit better than Clomid.

[dec11]

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[dec11]

Dec I am surprised you don't know about Superdrol being that it is a drug profile on this very website. No it is basically methylated Masteron . It is very real. Vets on this very forum from my own research have said that though it is liver toxic like any other oral, it gives very hard dry gains. This is the real deal and why I am very carefully and prudently trying to do this right before I begin.

Regarding "Proper" PCT; I have researched this and the PCT of today tends to be looked favourably with some circles of people familiar with designer steroids ; but I am not sensing this at all from the forums. However, before I scrap it, I want to make sure it isn't being scrapped from people just assuming designer steroids of today are crap scams...as they are some of the most potent steroids available.

Regarding stats, 32, 190lbs, 12%bf 16inch arms cold, 34 waist would like to get to back to my "old self" of about 210lbs, 17 inch arms, 32 waist 48 chest.

Thanks everyone. Does anyone know more about my concern with low HDL? It is common with almost every designer steroid (not necessarily prohormone, but designer steroid). I am very familiar with Nolva/Clomid and can go that route for PCT IF people can really chime in here with good advice on why PCT is not sufficient. From my research, it is a bit better than Clomid.

didnt say i dont know of it. proper AAS are tried and tested, that other garbage doesnt have any regulation at all, its just pumped out on shelves till it gets an FDA ban.

nobody is saying they dont work, i have read alot of reports of PH's being nowhere near as strong as they previously were. any that do actually work are harsh and worse on you than the real thing. i personally would bother with them

[gixxerboy1]

Dec I am surprised you don't know about Superdrol being that it is a drug profile on this very website. No it is basically methylated Masteron . It is very real. Vets on this very forum from my own research have said that though it is liver toxic like any other oral, it gives very hard dry gains. This is the real deal and why I am very carefully and prudently trying to do this right before I begin.

Regarding "Proper" PCT; I have researched this and the PCT of today tends to be looked favourably with some circles of people familiar with designer steroids ; but I am not sensing this at all from the forums. However, before I scrap it, I want to make sure it isn't being scrapped from people just assuming designer steroids of today are crap scams...as they are some of the most potent steroids available.

Regarding stats, 32, 190lbs, 12%bf 16inch arms cold, 34 waist would like to get to back to my "old self" of about 210lbs, 17 inch arms, 32 waist 48 chest.

Thanks everyone. Does anyone know more about my concern with low HDL? It is common with almost every designer steroid (not necessarily prohormone, but designer steroid). I am very familiar with Nolva/Clomid and can go that route for PCT IF people can really chime in here with good advice on why PCT is not sufficient. From my research, it is a bit better than Clomid.

i dont know where you heard the otc stuff is better then clomid. Maybe a site that sell the otc crap. I can tell you from being here years and people come on that have issues that tried otc pct products.

i've tried some ph's and had more side effect then from steroids. I would never any of them again

[dec11]

i dont know where you heard the otc stuff is better then clomid. Maybe a site that sell the otc crap. I can tell you from being here years and people come on that have issues that tried otc pct products.

i've tried some ph's and had more side effect then from steroids. I would never any of them again

jez i missed the 'pct' listed, that stuff is total garbage for def

[ottomaddox]

It's just a load of crappy supplements, labeled with fancy names and bogus claims. Snake oil would be better....