D'bol Only 4-6 weeks first cycle opinons?

**dsam90** · 12-17-2011, 09:06 AM

how we doing everybody?
Please help a newbie out,

I understand the risks, and all that other bs involved with use especially for being a first timer.

However, Opinions on 4-6 week d'bol only cycle?
I realise people recommend test for first cycle, but i simply don't have the time for more gradual gains
i require extra size & strength now.
I'm 6.3 215 pounds

What mg a day would you recommend ?
& more importantly it is my understanding once cycle has finished around 60% of gains are lost?
is it possible to keep a decent amount of size & strength after cycling with good diet, rest & hard training?

thanx alot for ur time ppl.

**gixxerboy1** · 12-17-2011, 09:09 AM

do a search on d-bol only cycles. Nobody recommends them for a reason.
how old are you and what is your bf%

**dsam90** · 12-17-2011, 09:10 AM

ok cheers,

19, 15%

**gixxerboy1** · 12-17-2011, 09:13 AM

your way to young to run anything buddy. You risk damaging your hpta

**dsam90** · 12-17-2011, 09:19 AM

I appreciate your concern, And Value your advice. but still does not answer my questions, I'm considering test-e too start. doesn't mean i'll choose d-bol only i'm just looking for opinions. as i emphizied before you gotta do what you gotta do to look good as long as i don't die and keep decent gains & strength i'm not overly bothered.

**gixxerboy1** · 12-17-2011, 09:24 AM

will you be bothered when you finish you cycle and loose most of you gains. Or have trouble getting erections? Or need hormone repla***ent for ever?

there is no dose for a d-bol only cycle i would recommend to anyone. d-bol alone isnt a proper cycle so there is no way to do it correctly

do you know what pct is?

**dsam90** · 12-17-2011, 09:32 AM

Absaloutly, but internet sources and from friends dictate otherwise usually with a test base to retain more of your gains.
however diet rest + exercise basics you can still keep a decent amount?

I understand the risks but you're entirely baseing that of a generic idea of one's age. Growth has stopped for me i'd like to think I'm preety fkn big for a caucasian naturally not much more growing here. test levels still high which may be a problem , but everyone different?

& yes. But 20 mg should be fine i'm guessing? without destroying the internals too badly, idk that's why i'm asking for advice

**gixxerboy1** · 12-17-2011, 09:37 AM

a source is your drug dealer. They are trying to sell you stuff. why would they tell you the truth?

you may be done growing height wise. Your internals aren't fully developed yet. There is a big difference.

Yes with test you would keep more only if you can recover your natural test afterwords. You will shut down your own natural test production while you are on cycle. And your endocrine system isnt fully developed yet. So if it doesn't recover or recovers to a lower level then you were. your screwed

you say you know the risk. do you know what your hpta is?

**dsam90** · 12-17-2011, 09:46 AM

nah from friends mid 20's who are on the juice and 6.1+ 230 pounds +
that's partially why i'm impulsive also rough areas where i work in security i sorta require to have more size to stay alive.

I appreciate your response's though unlike most of the other condescending dicks around.
I may posbone use for a little while....

But ultimate answer to my question is.

D'bol by itself obselete without stacking?

**gixxerboy1** · 12-17-2011, 09:49 AM

When you say security i'm assuming you mean bar/club. Trust me i worked in the scene for years in probably worse areas. knowing how to talk and handle yourself makes more of a difference then a few lbs.

yes to aswer your question again. d-bol only cycle is bad, obsolete, a waste. Dont know how else i can say it buddy

**Testosterone.** · 12-17-2011, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by dsam90

how we doing everybody?
Please help a newbie out,

I understand the risks, and all that other bs involved with use especially for being a first timer.

However, Opinions on 4-6 week d'bol only cycle?
I realise people recommend test for first cycle, but i simply don't have the time for more gradual gains
i require extra size & strength now.
I'm 6.3 215 pounds

What mg a day would you recommend ?
& more importantly it is my understanding once cycle has finished around 60% of gains are lost?
is it possible to keep a decent amount of size & strength after cycling with good diet, rest & hard training?

thanx alot for ur time ppl.

Don't have time for gradual gains you say? That's all you do have is time. Your 19 years old and while you think your grown, your body isn't yet. Keep working hard in the gym, watch your diet and get plenty of sleep and you will grow into a mans body within no time. If you do insist on doing a dbol cycle only at age 19 know that after your cycle, you will loose all of your gains and will probably have trouble producing testosterone and hard on's for years to come mate.

**Blade15** · 12-17-2011, 01:53 PM

Another impatient dude.. who want big guns than their age.. Train hard bro.. wait til 25.. or get F***ed up...

**The Bear 79** · 12-17-2011, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by dsam90

Absaloutly, but internet sources and from friends dictate otherwise usually with a test base to retain more of your gains.
however diet rest + exercise basics you can still keep a decent amount?

I understand the risks but you're entirely baseing that of a generic idea of one's age. Growth has stopped for me i'd like to think I'm preety fkn big for a caucasian naturally not much more growing here. test levels still high which may be a problem , but everyone different?

& yes. But 20 mg should be fine i'm guessing? without destroying the internals too badly, idk that's why i'm asking for advice

How do u know ur done growing? Hav u seen an Endo. & had tests done? That's the only way 2 know 4 sure, just cuz YOU say ur done growing, doesn't mean its true. Also, even if u were done growing, that doesn't mean ur HPTA (hormone system) is fully developed. How would u like 2 take hormone repla***ent shot 4 the rest of ur life just cuz u were 2 inpatient 2 wait 4 or 5 yrs. Or how bout needing Viagra 4 the rest of ur life? Does chronic fatigue & depression sound good 2 u? if any of the afore mentioned sounds appealing 2 u, then do ur thing man, otherwise, do urself a favor, & just wait. We can help u design a great mass building diet & training regime if you'd like.

**songdog** · 12-17-2011, 04:12 PM

The guys you are calling dicks are trying to save you a lot of trouble that you could experence if you dont listen to them.Guys are here to try to help.BUT they hate repeating themselfs to kids who wont listen and think they can get big overnite.There is no shortcut for hard work.

**BossMcBossBoss** · 12-17-2011, 06:38 PM

you're too young, you're bodyfat is too high, and a dbol only cycle is stupid

**Ashop** · 12-17-2011, 07:22 PM

4-6 WEEKS will be fine. I think your short changing yourself though by not running some additional testosterone with the DBOL .
They have a synergistic effect and you will look better,,feel better,, and make MUCH better gains. Also dont forget to use an AI
regardless of what you do.

**ottomaddox** · 12-17-2011, 10:20 PM

He's 19.

Originally Posted by ****

4-6 WEEKS will be fine. I think your short changing yourself though by not running some additional testosterone with the DBOL .
They have a synergistic effect and you will look better,,feel better,, and make MUCH better gains. Also dont forget to use an AI
regardless of what you do.

**The Bear 79** · 12-17-2011, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by ottomaddox

He's 19.

I'd b willing 2 bet that's y so many people hav told him he's 2 yung 2 cycle.......................

**dec11** · 12-17-2011, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

When you say security i'm assuming you mean bar/club. Trust me i worked in the scene for years in probably worse areas. knowing how to talk and handle yourself makes more of a difference then a few lbs.

yes to aswer your question again. d-bol only cycle is bad, obsolete, a waste. Dont know how else i can say it buddy

x2...

**dec11** · 12-17-2011, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by ****

4-6 WEEKS will be fine. I think your short changing yourself though by not running some additional testosterone with the DBOL .
They have a synergistic effect and you will look better,,feel better,, and make MUCH better gains. Also dont forget to use an AI
regardless of what you do.

why do you always constantly undo ppl's good work on here? go on, please give us explanation just this one time

**The Bear 79** · 12-17-2011, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

why do you always constantly undo ppl's good work on here? go on, please give us explanation just this one time

Thank u Dec, I wanted 2 call him out, but thought better of it cuz he's a Vet.

**gearbox** · 12-18-2011, 01:34 AM

I think this goes back to gixxer on "how to talk and handle yourself" haha nothing wrong with calling ppl out...

**slfmade** · 12-18-2011, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

When you say security i'm assuming you mean bar/club. Trust me i worked in the scene for years in probably worse areas. knowing how to talk and handle yourself makes more of a difference then a few lbs.

Agreed.

OP; haven't you seen "roadhouse"!

**dec11** · 12-19-2011, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

Thank u Dec, I wanted 2 call him out, but thought better of it cuz he's a Vet.

he isnt and i dont know how he has gotten off with his reckless 'advice' for so long

**gearbox** · 12-19-2011, 08:09 PM

dbol only is a stupid idea...shocking you are young..

**dec11** · 12-19-2011, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

I think this goes back to gixxer on "how to talk and handle yourself" haha nothing wrong with calling ppl out...

nope as long as it isnt done in a flame fest, i know that 1st hand

**Olly** · 12-19-2011, 08:43 PM

seriously dude im young as well so i can relate to where your coming from and understand how easy it is to not give a **** about your long term health, but this is serious shit. When i first started researching AAS i found plenty of "trusted" people and internet sources telling me what i wanted to hear. All i can say is i wish id found this forum earlier before i started, im 22 and i regret getting on the juice so young and the thought i could have permanently ****ed myself, do yourself a huge favour and listen to what these guys have to say!

Also if your thinking you´ll be able to run one quick dbol cycle and leave AAS after that, think again......

**dec11** · 12-19-2011, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Olly

seriously dude im young as well so i can relate to where your coming from and understand how easy it is to not give a **** about your long term health, but this is serious shit. When i first started researching AAS i found plenty of "trusted" people and internet sources telling me what i wanted to hear. All i can say is i wish id found this forum earlier before i started, im 22 and i regret getting on the juice so young and the thought i could have permanently ****ed myself, do yourself a huge favour and listen to what these guys have to say!

Also if your thinking you´ll be able to run one quick dbol cycle and leave AAS after that, think again......

wise words

**gixxerboy1** · 12-19-2011, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Olly

seriously dude im young as well so i can relate to where your coming from and understand how easy it is to not give a **** about your long term health, but this is serious shit. When i first started researching AAS i found plenty of "trusted" people and internet sources telling me what i wanted to hear. All i can say is i wish id found this forum earlier before i started, im 22 and i regret getting on the juice so young and the thought i could have permanently ****ed myself, do yourself a huge favour and listen to what these guys have to say!

Also if your thinking you´ll be able to run one quick dbol cycle and leave AAS after that, think again......

great post

and i only wanted to get to a certain weight. I'm 17lbs heaver then that now and looking to get bigger