First Cycle Ever

**VegasKid** · 12-19-2011, 12:45 AM

Hey guys
Newbie on here just signed up after constantly coming on to read information
Anyways I am about to do my first cycle and just wondering what to expect

My friend is a pro body builder so I know he knows EXACTLY what he is talking about and would never steer me wrong just wondering what I can expect

I just cut alot of fat and got myself big as I want to be in my upper body
22 Y.O.
5'10''
192lbs
15%BF down from about 20%

Cycle im doing:
cutter stack: tren acetate, masteron , test p

injecting every other day

I have a pretty good diet for the past 6 months which allowed me to really cut most my BF and now im starting that blood type diet when I get my blood results tomorrow. Like i said my buddy is really good about this stuff so hes helping me alot I just feel bad asking him so many questions sometimes haha

thanks for the help

**slfmade** · 12-19-2011, 12:59 AM

Your "pro BB'er" friend is steering you very very very very very very very very wrong. There are so many things wrong with this, and I'm too tired to point it all out and EXPLAIN everything to you right now. I'll go to bed and let the vets reply to this...but do yourself a favor and DON'T run this until you get the otherside of the story. If nobody respondes to you by tomorrow morning...I will.

**dooie** · 12-19-2011, 01:01 AM

Bro!! If u have done some research you would know that a test only cycle is the best for your first, if u add everything else how do u know what compound your getting the sides from (if any)????

Did ur buddy tell u about PCT?

**VegasKid** · 12-19-2011, 01:05 AM

Ya i know about PCT.
not sure what im doing for it yet though

**Knockout_Power** · 12-19-2011, 01:10 AM

wow, he is a pro and is steering you in this direction? A friend? And he wants you to start out this way? Ask him if he knows what HPTA refers to as well as the effects of anabolics on a not yet fully developed endocrine system. Im sure he will give you a quick blank stare followed by "thats novice shit, stick with me boy, you're going to go far"... he didnt by chance sell you the gear did he?

**domensional** · 12-19-2011, 01:13 AM

My first post here.. because I have been in the research phase.. but like dooie is saying. Test is the first, and only thing to do after diet is in check, and you are in shape and BEFORE that you have your PCT in check! I would look up PCT before you inject ANYTHING else. And Gyno!!
Your friend doesnt know what he is doing, and nor do you. Research before you use yourself as a guinea pig man. Be safe.. All the best.

-"Who do I trust? Me, that's who"

**VegasKid** · 12-19-2011, 01:13 AM

no he didnt i got it from someone else. he just told me what to get

**slfmade** · 12-19-2011, 01:21 AM

I would love it if you had your friend sign up on this site and tell all of us exactly why he would recommend this to you. How old is he? Okay, I'm really going to bed now! I'll check back in the morning.

**gearbox** · 12-19-2011, 01:30 AM

tren is a very very strong compound and should not be played with!!! Hell all AAS should not be played with but Tren is for advanced lifters or guys with experience...when I say experience I do not mean huge muscles I mean guys that have cycles under their belts to know who there body reacts, guys that get blood work often...
TREN should never be a first or second time cycle and this guys on here actually care and have experience to tell you this.. everyone here wants you to grow WE ALL WANT TO....but we want to do it mildly safe and effectively and not ruin our bodies so we have to go on trt at 40...

**VegasKid** · 12-19-2011, 01:51 AM

He did clearly explain to me that this is some strong stuff that shouldnt be done until the 3rd cycle if not after. I am taking responsibility and the liability and I did get work done to make sure I was healthy and what not. I understand what I am doing is probably not the smartest thing in the world lol. I really do appreciate the help and concern.
My main question is just what I should expect. huge significant changes? anger? is my dick gunna fall off? is my liver and kidney going to collapse on my first shot? am i going to lose alot of fat? etc

**Knockout_Power** · 12-19-2011, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by VegasKid

My main question is just what I should expect. huge significant changes? anger? is my dick gunna fall off? is my liver and kidney going to collapse on my first shot? am i going to lose alot of fat? etc

this is why you dont run all these compounds. Nobody knows how you will react. Anyone who can give you even a close approximation has their head up their ass. The reason you start with just test is so you can see how your body reacts to it. If its good, then next cycle you can either run that same thing, up it a bit or add a 2nd compound. If there is no problem, now you have 2 compounds you know what to expect from. If theres a problem, you know it came from the 2nd compound.

What I think is interesting, is that you dont even know what to expect, but you are sure you need a stacked cycle... how is that possible?

TBH, I dont think you will see much more from using all 3 than just doing test alone. Your body will be in enough shock and fast growth mode that its next to impossible to add even more safely.

A good starter test E or C cycle of 500/wk for 10-12 weeks can easily add 8-12lbs of pure muscle, and Ive seen some guys with great diets and training get into the high teens for gains.... and you want more?

do you even think your organs can keep up with any more mass? Adding even 10lbs in 3 months can add extra strain on the heart and other organs, it only gets more difficult the more weight you add.

Think this through please, until YOU know exactly how you will react, I am not sure why you are willing to risk all with a "theory" on how to do it right

**Gym_** · 12-19-2011, 02:06 AM

Mate don't take that,,, your gonna fuk ya self up and end up in ER or worse ... get one of the VETS here a chance to walk ya thought something better

This is what you would be smarter to do http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle1.php and 2nd page is http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle2.php

More reading mate more reading ..

Gym_

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Beer is not just for breakfast any more

**MeatHead85** · 12-19-2011, 03:07 AM

Agree with all the vets on here, bro you are obviously going into this blind. Before anyone keeps feeding this kid better cycle idea lets remember he is only 22! No cycle is a good. Sorry thats the truth. Rather then jump into aas look up what your endocrine system is, the results of doing a cycle at your age. There is more risk then reward there. This is not the kind of stuff you take a chance on thinking oh I'll be fine I'm only doing it once or I'm doing it the right way. This is the rest of your life your playing with. Do yourself a favor and research more.

**Gym_** · 12-19-2011, 03:21 AM

Agrees with Meathead ... when ya hear stuff about having to be on HRT for the rest of your life because you weren't as big as the meat head next door ( arr not you meathead..lol ) then you may think twice about it... your so young your system would be flooded with test adding more is like pouring gas on a fire that is already out of control ..
Sorta like taking Viagra when u cant get a woody to go down as it is ..

**domensional** · 12-19-2011, 03:22 AM

You said you know what PCT is but you're not sure what you're going to take yet. The reason I said its recommended to have before you cycle is that if you start to feel the effects of gyno( bitch tits ) setting in then you stop the juice and get your shit in check before permanant damage is done. You dont want to have bitch tits.. and especially when stacking things like you are you have a much much higher likely hood of having negetive side effects.

**RuckusDC5** · 12-19-2011, 03:47 AM

The person that advised you to do this stack, did you sleep with his GF and got caught? Possibly slept with his mother as well??

JK, that is way too much. Read the stickies, just remember it's your body and you only get one..

**VegasKid** · 12-19-2011, 06:00 AM

Well, I am officially scared out of my fugn mind thank you guys hahaha
I really do appreciate the help.

**jasc** · 12-19-2011, 09:03 AM

Listen to these guys.. that is a hell of a mix for you're first time... Tren is not for a first cycle. Ever seen a man lactate out of his nipples? or grow tits? how about a 22 yr old that can't get an erection without viagra? Or a bad case of tren cough n countless sleepless nights with bad night sweats?

Not trying to scare ya bro, but these are all possible sides of tren. With the right knowledge and proper on cycle support n pct, most of these can be controlled, without those, you're in a world of trouble.