1st Cycle Ever. Test Only

**RuckusDC5** · 12-19-2011, 03:37 AM

I keep editing my 1st post, instead of making new threads...

Today's post 3/3/2012:

I am on my 7th pin @ 250mg of Test Cyp 1st cycle, week 4. I started feeling all kinds of gains week 3 feelin' like the incredible hulk, and only side effects are VERY VIVID dreams and some juicy zits on my back.

Question:

Yesterday I went out with my friends, had about 5 beers total. I was spitting game at a 9/10, I have a girlfriend 7/10, and I got lucky. Went over, I was harder than steel!!! I nutted around 20-25 minutes into it, my average is 35-45 minutes and a quick blow job gets it back up. My GF of course does anything I ask, but for a first night stand I didn't want to ask this new gal for a BJ. No matter what I did, I couldn't get it back up!!!!!!! After 20 minutes of trying, I gave up and told her my friend had a flat tire so I dipped. What could have caused this? The Test Cyp, the 5 beers, or the fact that the gal was a 9/10 and I have been hitting my GF's ***** for around 6 months?

Very serious BTW, all comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Supplements:

Controlled Labs Orange Triad
JR Barthel Fitness Unleashes Pre-Workout
ON's 100% Gold Whey Protein (2 servings post work out)
All Max Creatine Mono (10g Daily while on cycle only)
ON's ZMA (Taking zinc for zits)

Have a good day!

**HellRiserPL** · 12-19-2011, 03:48 AM

Didn't bother to read rules ? at 20 yrs old you need to put that stuff away b4 you brake your self and your pecker m8. GO and read some more about steroids at your age, stop being inpatient just diet and train hard and you will prop ably gain 60 lbs in 3 years of quality muscle and after 2 more years of hard work and dedication your body will be ready for a cycle.
I'm not an expert bodybuilder or look like Phil Heath but i know a little from reading around here

, risks your taking right now will reflect on your future life. You will end up with gr8 body and IT in your pants you will grow Quato down there ( like the dude in Total Recall ). No i'm just joking u'll be able to use it as fish bait.

**RuckusDC5** · 12-19-2011, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by HellRiserPL

Didn't bother to read rules ? at 20 yrs old you need to put that stuff away b4 you brake your self and your pecker m8. GO and read some more about steroids at your age, stop being inpatient just diet and train hard and you will prop ably gain 60 lbs in 3 years of quality muscle and after 2 more years of hard work and dedication your body will be ready for a cycle.
I'm not an expert bodybuilder or look like Phil Heath but i know a little from reading around here

, risks your taking right now will reflect on your future life. You will end up with gr8 body and IT in your pants you will grow Quato down there ( like the dude in Total Recall ). No i'm just joking u'll be able to use it as fish bait.

MY profile doesnt show my age ? I am 24 years old, started training at 20 years old. That's four years, sorry about the confusion.. LOL

**Gym_** · 12-19-2011, 03:59 AM

I totaly agree except for this bit

Originally Posted by HellRiserPL

prop ably gain 60 lbs in 3 years of quality muscle

Depends on body type Ive seen guys get massive 100% natural in 12 months and they look great .. they don't look fake like when you see guys that have juiced wrong ..
I my self when i was 28 went from flab to fab and 0 to hero in 12 months putting on massive inches...

Don't get mad get even smash thous muscle with weights not juice you will be surprised how big you can get and how soon ..

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I'm in shape... round's a shape isn't it?

**RuckusDC5** · 12-19-2011, 04:11 AM

I'm 24, I edited OP. I thought it would display my age when I made the profile.
Any thoughts or improvements on this simple stack?

**Capebuffalo** · 12-19-2011, 06:14 AM

Looks good to me. Be sure to really up your cals with good clean food. And thank you for only running test your first cycle. You obviously have researched and paid attention to what you learned. You splitting the injections correct? Eat train and enjoy.

**HellRiserPL** · 12-19-2011, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Gym_

I totaly agree except for this bit

Depends on body type Ive seen guys get massive 100% natural in 12 months and they look great .. they don't look fake like when you see guys that have juiced wrong ..
I my self when i was 28 went from flab to fab and 0 to hero in 12 months putting on massive inches...

Don't get mad get even smash thous muscle with weights not juice you will be surprised how big you can get and how soon ..

Yeah total some people are like Phil Heath

. But its good to have good base so your body already got stronger like bones density or your joints etc. to avoid injuries that may occur as your strength goes up and so on. Iv been up all night forgive me if my English sux atm.

**Phyll** · 12-19-2011, 09:24 AM

I think 500mg is a high dosage for a first cycle. Some people here will say otherwise, but I ran my 1st cycle with test E at 300mg/wk and had awesome results. I was using EQ as well though.

**Times Roman** · 12-19-2011, 09:35 AM

Welcome to the board mate!
If you've been training hard for 4 years, and you've plateau'd out, then you could be ready for a first cycle.
Let me just say a couple of things....
a first cycle should be test only, as you are planning. 500mg test e for 12 weeks is a standard cycle, and you should see some good gains on this.
the reason a first cycle needs to be test only, is so that you can gain an understanding of what this hormone does to your body, and you get comfortable with it. When addiing compounds in the future, if you so choose to do that, take a SCIENTIFIC APPROACH, and only introduce 1 unknown variable (compound) into a cycle at a time. that way, if something goes wrong, you can immediately isolate and identify what it is.
Another thing most newbs don't understand is how critical a proper diet is when going down the path we are on. If your diet and/or routine are not dialed in (this doesn't happen intuitively), then the reality is you will not get much out of your cycle. Taking steroids should be the last thing to consider, after everything else is in place.
So let me suggest you go to the diet section, and post your diet up. We have a couple of gurus that will really drill down into your nutrition plan and educate you with improvement opportunities. Don't underestimate this aspect of your regimine!
If you have anyother questions, just give us a shout!
---Roman

**jasc** · 12-19-2011, 12:53 PM

Cycle looks good.
Your pct is a little short, 4 weeks should be a minimum.
Also, getting an AI would be a good idea before you start.
If you have access, hcg would also be a good addition.

**gearbox** · 12-19-2011, 02:18 PM

last two posts are great...and yes get an ai BEFORE you start your cycle....

**SG2009** · 12-19-2011, 02:37 PM

@ 500mg a wk and clomid and nolva for pct....save your arimidx money for nutrious food (((diet)))

Originally Posted by RuckusDC5

About me: 5'9", 183 pounds, I am 24 years old, training hard since 20 years old.
Hello I'm new to gear and starting my first cycle ever. Test-only 12 week cycle:

week 1-12 Test E ( 500mg )

PCT:
week 14-16 Clomid ( 14 = 100 mg / 15 = 50mg / 16 = 50mg )
week 14-16 Nolva ( 20mg )

Thinking about having an AI in hand, A-dex

Any advice from some one experienced? Thank you.

**RuckusDC5** · 12-20-2011, 03:32 AM

I still have some questions lol, and as for splitting I have seen that once every two weeks should be fine. But like I said I still need a bit more advice.. and Tips.

**RuckusDC5** · 12-20-2011, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

Welcome to the board mate!
If you've been training hard for 4 years, and you've plateau'd out, then you could be ready for a first cycle.
Let me just say a couple of things....
a first cycle should be test only, as you are planning. 500mg test e for 12 weeks is a standard cycle, and you should see some good gains on this.
the reason a first cycle needs to be test only, is so that you can gain an understanding of what this hormone does to your body, and you get comfortable with it. When addiing compounds in the future, if you so choose to do that, take a SCIENTIFIC APPROACH, and only introduce 1 unknown variable (compound) into a cycle at a time. that way, if something goes wrong, you can immediately isolate and identify what it is.
Another thing most newbs don't understand is how critical a proper diet is when going down the path we are on. If your diet and/or routine are not dialed in (this doesn't happen intuitively), then the reality is you will not get much out of your cycle. Taking steroids should be the last thing to consider, after everything else is in place.
So let me suggest you go to the diet section, and post your diet up. We have a couple of gurus that will really drill down into your nutrition plan and educate you with improvement opportunities. Don't underestimate this aspect of your regimine!
If you have anyother questions, just give us a shout!
---Roman

I have a good diet, very few cheat meals. Strict discipline always hitting my macros right on. I'm trying to maintain low BF while gaining those few extra solid pounds.
Thanks for the warm welcome, I will see what adjustments I have to do to my diet while on the cycle..

**Gym_** · 12-20-2011, 03:59 AM

Ya still young mate.... before you dose you should prob have a quick read of what may happin to you if you juice to young .. its not pleasant ...

Gym_

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Borg? Where? I don't se*(#$#..NO CARRIER

**Capebuffalo** · 12-20-2011, 06:19 AM

Splitting the test into two 250 mg shots let's say monday morning and thursday evening will keep a more constant level in your system. One shot on Monday levels will be higher than by weeks end. So it's a little of a rollercoaster.

**The Bear 79** · 12-20-2011, 08:27 AM

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**jasc** · 12-20-2011, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by SG2009

@ 500mg a wk and clomid and nolva for pct....save your arimidx money for nutrious food (((diet)))

good idea... that way if he gets gyno he can spend thousands on surgery while getting laughed at by his boys for having tits... all to save a few $ on a cycle

**The Bear 79** · 12-20-2011, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by SG2009

@ 500mg a wk and clomid and nolva for pct....save your arimidx money for nutrious food (((diet)))

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Originally Posted by jasc

good idea... that way if he gets gyno he can spend thousands on surgery while getting laughed at by his boys for having tits... all to save a few $ on a cycle

jasc pay no mind 2 this clown. His knowledge of AAS can b written in great detail on the head of a pin with a wide tip marker.

**RuckusDC5** · 12-22-2011, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Gym_

Ya still young mate.... before you dose you should prob have a quick read of what may happin to you if you juice to young .. its not pleasant ...

Gym_

....................

Borg? Where? I don't se*(#$#..NO CARRIER

Thanks for your concern, I have read quiet a bit of stickies and I am very serious about poking my self lol no homo!

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Splitting the test into two 250 mg shots let's say monday morning and thursday evening will keep a more constant level in your system. One shot on Monday levels will be higher than by weeks end. So it's a little of a rollercoaster.

Makes sense, will look into it!

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

So ur fishing??

Sorry, edited.. I know its a rule. (:

Originally Posted by jasc

good idea... that way if he gets gyno he can spend thousands on surgery while getting laughed at by his boys for having tits... all to save a few $ on a cycle

Right? Not half assing anything, im on this forum for a reason..

**RuckusDC5** · 12-22-2011, 06:57 PM

I see no one has recommended HCG , do I not need it on a cycle such as this one ??

**RuckusDC5** · 01-11-2012, 12:55 AM

after researching I had to edit my thread. Need to be sure on why to order

**jasc** · 01-11-2012, 11:07 AM

HCG would be beneficial on any test cycle. Some say that because its a first or because it's only a moderate dose of test that you don't need it.

Facts are that raising test above normal body levels will shut you down or atleast considerably lower natural production.
Hcg will keep the boys working and normal size, if not a little larger.
One of the main reasons people lose size right after a cycle is due to low test while recovering. Hcg will make pct much easier and help with a faster recovery and should ultimately help you keep more gains.

It's relatively inexpensive and has many great benefits, personally I'd use it with every test cycle.

**hugz** · 01-11-2012, 01:29 PM

Lol - Spam software? these forums have turned into complete shit.

**hugz** · 01-11-2012, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by jasc

HCG would be beneficial on any test cycle. Some say that because its a first or because it's only a moderate dose of test that you don't need it.

Facts are that raising test above normal body levels will shut you down or atleast considerably lower natural production.
Hcg will keep the boys working and normal size, if not a little larger.
One of the main reasons people lose size right after a cycle is due to low test while recovering. Hcg will make pct much easier and help with a faster recovery and should ultimately help you keep more gains.

It's relatively inexpensive and has many great benefits, personally I'd use it with every test cycle.

you dont even know what youre talking about. I suggest getting educated about HCG

Using HCG is not beneficial on "any" test cycle and actually cause you to have gyno if not ran properly. do your homework.

**jasc** · 01-11-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by hugz

you dont even know what youre talking about. I suggest getting educated about HCG

Using HCG is not beneficial on "any" test cycle and actually cause you to have gyno if not ran properly. do your homework.

ignore this troll

**Swifto** · 01-11-2012, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by hugz

you dont even know what youre talking about. I suggest getting educated about HCG

Using HCG is not beneficial on "any" test cycle and actually cause you to have gyno if not ran properly. do your homework.

How did you come to that conclusion clever clogs?

Tell me how you would maintain testicular size and function when using steroids that cause total cessation of endogenous androgen output? Not to mention avoiding testicular dysfunction?

Trubulus yeah?

**RuckusDC5** · 01-12-2012, 05:17 AM

So I should run hcg PCT along with Nolva & Clomid, regardless if it is a test only cycle.
I would rather be safe than sorry, so might as well add it. The source I found has an HCG kit anyways. (:

Thanks for all the advice, can't wait to order!!

**RuckusDC5** · 01-12-2012, 05:32 AM

The only thing about HCG that confuses me the most is the dosage. What would be ideal for a short and sweet cycle like mine ?

"IU" ??

**jasc** · 01-12-2012, 09:05 AM

Hcg is best taken during cycle

250 IU 2x/week
inject sub-q, typically in the stomach

Hcg is measured in IU, not mg/ml
The IU concentration will depend how much bac you add to reconstitute the hormone. ( hope this answered the "IU" question)

**felk87** · 01-12-2012, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by RuckusDC5

The only thing about HCG that confuses me the most is the dosage. What would be ideal for a short and sweet cycle like mine ?

"IU" ??

Get some bac water mix 4 ml of bac water with 50000 iu hcg and get some slin pins and do .2 or 20 depending on the reading mark in the slin pin this will equal 250 iu per.2 or 20 units

**RuckusDC5** · 01-13-2012, 03:56 AM

Thank you guys for the advice, I am more confused than ever for now lol. When it is time to order, I will add it to my order. Just wanted to know if it's necessary, and thanks for the measurements as well!!

**RuckusDC5** · 01-14-2012, 09:48 PM

new topic

**RuckusDC5** · 01-15-2012, 06:58 PM

new topic

**RuckusDC5** · 03-03-2012, 12:20 PM

New Topic 3/3/12

**Bodacious** · 03-03-2012, 01:36 PM

Jacs has been helping me out Ruckus, This shit is confusing as hell. From what I have learn I would run HCG while your on your cycle of test. Then run a PCT for 4 weeks. While you are on your cycle run an AI.

Couldnt tell you when to take this stuff. Beside test two days a week Monday and Thurs. (DOnt know when to take the HCG or The AI ) I am confused about that I just read and read and read more and get more confused.

I do know 2 weeks after you last Test shot start you PCT clomid and Nolva for 4 weeks.