sust / tren cycle help

**framunto3** · 12-21-2011, 06:36 AM

i need some suggestions on how much of each i should be taking and when. everything ive heard or read is different.
lets start with my stats
male
36 yrs old
5'10"
204lbs
17% body fat
training for 10yrs on and off 1yr non stop
have done some sust cycles over the yrs
just finished a 12 wk sust 300 cyycle 6months ago
i also plan on doing another pcy after this cycle
what im looking for is some real friggin advice on how much of each i should do and maybe what my protien intake should be. any advice would help.

**auslifta** · 12-21-2011, 06:44 AM

How did you respond to this last cycle? What were your stats before, and after you cycled your most recent? Also your goals for next cycle?

Post up your diet as well, including macros. (typical day)

**Times Roman** · 12-21-2011, 06:46 AM

Welcome to the board mate.
Not sure about the "coctail" sust, it's test, but 4 or 5 different esthers and i think even some base in there? imho, test e or c would be preferable, since a single long acting esther, and you can pin once or twice a week and you are g2g.
A standard dose of test is 500mg/week for 12 weeks.

now about tren . have you ever cycled with tren before? some pretty gnarly shit. makes me irritable as hell, and difficult to be around. Plus pain at the injection site with swelling and redness.

so, let's do this the other way?
what are your goals?
bulk? cut? slow clean growth?

tren isn't ideal for all goals. under the right circumstances, it is a very good compound.

Let me know
---Roman

**songdog** · 12-21-2011, 08:32 AM

Bro I believe you need to hit the diet section.Like the man said post it up with macros.You need cardio and as for tren I wouldnt if I was you.I personally dont feel you need it you are to new.So hit the diet section learn how to eat along with a good workout plus cardio.You will be fine.

**MR10X** · 12-21-2011, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by framunto3

i need some suggestions on how much of each i should be taking and when. everything ive heard or read is different.
lets start with my stats
male
36 yrs old
5'10"
204lbs
17% body fat
training for 10yrs on and off 1yr non stop
have done some sust cycles over the yrs
just finished a 12 wk sust 300 cyycle 6months ago
i also plan on doing another pcy after this cycle
what im looking for is some real friggin advice on how much of each i should do and maybe what my protien intake should be. any advice would help.

500MG SUSTANON twice a week and 100mg Tren A EOD,
Heres a good link on training and nutrition...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W25lL...eature=related

**Knockout_Power** · 12-21-2011, 12:32 PM

I think you would most benefit from getting a good diet in place. Ditch the sust and do not run it twice a week like so many people do. If you are using this injection protocol, you are not making use of the shorter ester tests in the sust which can be as much as 30% in some blends which means you are only using the longer esters so just run test E or C and get 100% of the benefit from each inject.

5-600mg/wk is great for test

I am not sure if tren is what you want to run with. Maybe try something not so harsh this time around like NPP, Deca or even an oral

**auslifta** · 12-21-2011, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

I think you would most benefit from getting a good diet in place. Ditch the sust and do not run it twice a week like so many people do. If you are using this injection protocol, you are not making use of the shorter ester tests in the sust which can be as much as 30% in some blends which means you are only using the longer esters so just run test E or C and get 100% of the benefit from each inject.

5-600mg/wk is great for test

I am not sure if tren is what you want to run with. Maybe try something not so harsh this time around like NPP, Deca or even an oral

Come on KP, there is no problem running sust E3D.