Another Newbie thread:

[soc22]

I hope to provide enough background and reasoning for the below. Lets get to it.

Age: 31
Height: 6'0
Weight: 180
Bf: 11%
Experience: High intensity training for 14 years: College soccer (football) player.
Current type of program: Crossfit 3x a week. 2 years, plus 1-2 days of general weight lifting. *Dependent on Crossfit workouts

*Note: The crossfit I belong to has a philosophy of doing more strength training than most. Of course we will do long metcons as well. It has a better balance than most crossfit WODs I have seen. I can provide a sample WOD if needed.


Diet: Intermittent fasting protocol. I try to go as close to paleo as I can. I love brown rice, plus the occasional sushi date with the wife and a pizza. Weeks I am really strict, I have chart that coordinates the number of reps completed during that day's workout to the number of carbs I should eat after mentioned workout.

Goals: I feel I have somewhat plateaued due to a number of reasons. Age, life balance, newly married, work related stresses. With that said, as most, I want to get stronger, look and feel great. Trying to maintain that athleticism. It's clear, I do not want to be a body builder.

Cycle experience: None. I have been reading for a couple years now on therapies; however, I have only been a member for a very short time. With that said I have planned cycle. See below with reasoning.

Weeks 1-10 or 12. Up for discussion,
Test E: 300-400 per week, broken up into 2 even injections every 4 days.

Weeks 1-30
HGH: 2ius per day. 5on 2off

Pct: Clomid and Nolva: 5 weeks. still deciding on amounts
Armidex on hand

Now for the reason. There are many opinions on cycles; however, one thing is very clear. Everyone agrees to start with a test. And most would say to start with test only. I am thinking about starting on 300mg per week to see how it goes. I am concerned about pumps, etc from my long metcons. I want to feel it out the first 6 weeks or so with my crossfit.

I have a friend who is the same build but is 35 on 2ius a day of HGH and loves it. I am not trying to use HGH for strength or build. I just want the overall well being benefits to that therapy. Looking to make HGH a life long commitment. Does that makes sense?

Any help would be appreciated.

Happy Holidays and Happy New Year.

[soc22]

I wanted to add that the reason for 2iu of HGH is not a cost factor. If it does well, I would be open to moving up in 2.5 - 4ius per day

[MacLean]

Welcome to the forum soc22. This is the place you want to get the best out of your cycles.

You seem to have done a lot of research and know a lot about what you are talking about.

On Test you may not start to feel the gains until maybe week 6, so you may not "feel it to begin with out the first six weeks" with your crossfit.

Good luck bro

[soc22]

probably will run test e for 12 weeks. that should give me enough time to make adjustments if needed.

[soc22]

bump for advice.

[rippedfromabove]

Did you consider HCG?

[soc22]

Did you consider HCG?

Not really. I have read about the therapy; however, I have yet to fully grasp it. I am not adversed to it. I am assuming you would add 250iu 2x per week during the cycle, stopping a week before PCT? Benefits to adding HCG here?

[rippedfromabove]

Not really. I have read about the therapy; however, I have yet to fully grasp it. I am not adversed to it. I am assuming you would add 250iu 2x per week during the cycle, stopping a week before PCT? Benefits to adding HCG here?

Yes and it makes recovery from cycle easier by keeping testicular processes functioning.

[randymeans]

I use to be a crossfitter by heart with over a 1000lb xfit total,28rd cindy and 324 fran yaddy yadda yadda! Anywho I don't see a problem with your cycle besides having all pct on hand and an AI before you start. Crossfit workouts get harder when doing metcons. Your muscles don't feel as much pain as your lungs do. That's how I feel anyway. Hope you have a great cycle and keep us posted!

[soc22]

impressive, randymeans.

Couple other questions

what is the preferred method of hcg injections. subq or im?

when should i stop hcg for the cycle i am running?

would you run armidex .25 ed, eod, or just when sides come into play?

I have decided to run hcg, thus will start next when the it arrives. want everything on hand.

Thanks,

[rippedfromabove]

Hcg is subq.. the aromasin is when estrogen sides kick in. I would run it throughout cycle as .5mg every 3days.

[soc22]

any advice on when to stop hcg?

[rippedfromabove]

Three days before pct i believe