Possible first cycle

[empireants901]

Did some research and i came up with this:

8 week cycle
Weeks 1-8 100 mg Test Prop every other day.
Weeks 3-8 40 mg Stan 10 per day.
Weeks 1-8 GP Anastrozole .5 mg per day (continued for at least 10 days after cycle.)

I don't know much about PCT but I was going to get HCG drops and BPI A-HD

[xelnaga]

Stats?

[empireants901]

Age 24, 5 9, 179 lbs and 8% body fat

[alexISthrowed]

Drop the winny and just run test for you first cycle. You sure about running prop your first cycle? Are you afraid of needles? I ran prop my first cycle no prob but some guys don't have it in them. For pct I like toremifene due to It's low toxicity. My pct looks like this:

Torem 120/120/60/60
Tamox 40/40/20/20

By hcg drops do you mean that fake hcg that you take orally? You might as well throw that away. I don't feel hcg in totally necessary on an 8 week short ester cycle anyways, but if you choose to run it do it during the cycle as it will suppress your hpta.

[empireants901]

So I could run test only my first cycle? and no needles aren't a problem, running test only would be a lot cheaper too

[alexISthrowed]

So I could run test only my first cycle? and no needles aren't a problem, running test only would be a lot cheaper too

Yes it's actually recommended to run test only on your first cycle. That way you only have one compound to deal with and if sides show up there is only one suspect. Winny isn't much of a builder anyways so you won't miss much.

[empireants901]

Yes it's actually recommended to run test only on your first cycle. That way you only have one compound to deal with and if sides show up there is only one suspect. Winny isn't much of a builder anyways so you won't miss much.

So just run 100mg test prop every other day for 8 weeks? what results should i expect?

[xelnaga]

So just run 100mg test prop every other day for 8 weeks? what results should i expect?

Results depend on dedication to training, diet, and rest.

[alexISthrowed]

Results depend on dedication to training, diet, and rest.

This^ plus genetics. Train hard, eat big, and you will grow.

[xelnaga]

I'm in the ladder part of a similar cycle. 50mgs prop ed/ dbol front load. I went from 190- 215 after 6 weeks. Im doing a total of 10 weeks, last 4 are cutting weeks.

[empireants901]

Results depend on dedication to training, diet, and rest.

I currently train 6 days a week for 2-3 hours a day and get my macros perfect every single day also I'm currently a personal trainer so I'm extremely dedicated

[alexISthrowed]

I currently train 6 days a week for 2-3 hours a day and get my macros perfect every single day also I'm currently a personal trainer so I'm extremely dedicated

No need to be in the gym for 2-3 hours especially natural.

[empireants901]

No need to be in the gym for 2-3 hours especially natural.

Yeah i know it's a little much, but i seriously love lifting more than anything

[alexISthrowed]

Yeah i know it's a little much, but i seriously love lifting more than anything

I'm right there with you man, I know how it is.

[songdog]

So then how can you train someone and try to teach them the right way.Then they watch you break all the rules?

[empireants901]

So then how can you train someone and try to teach them the right way.Then they watch you break all the rules?

Iv been training the right way for years and have even been accused of taking them before, I don't see it as breaking the rules or cheating unless you're using them for an actual sport