Test 400, EQ cycle questions.

**BigGuy90** · 12-30-2011, 10:26 AM

I am a 5'10 175lb 21 year old male. My BF is 15% and I want to cut it down hopefully even less, while looking massive as a bull. I have been dedicated in the gym since I was 17 years old and my diet is going to be on point while on this cycle. I opted not to have Adex on hand as an AI and instead have a product called Erase on hand. Its an all natural product made by PES. I don't have HCG but I didn't think I would need it. My PCT is going to be Clomid at 100/50/50 or 100/100/50/50 so it depends..My first cycle was just a Dbol 50mg ed. My strength shot through the roof and I gained 11 lbs in the 4 weeks I was using it. I was just wondering if you guys can have any suggestions for my cycle or anything if you think I'm doing wrong? Thanks for all the help!

**The Bear 79** · 12-30-2011, 10:28 AM

Cycling @ ur age significantly increase the risk of doing potentially irreversible damage 2 ur undeveloped Endocrine & HPTA.

**The Bear 79** · 12-30-2011, 10:30 AM

Ur stats indicate ur diet & or training deficiency, if u don't mind, we'll hav a look @ ur daily intake & training routine & c if we can make the changes necessary 2 make some BIG gains naturally.

**BigGuy90** · 12-30-2011, 11:12 AM

Well I just wanted to get back to how much I weighed at my peak before I was injured playing ball. I weighed about 185 before I lost about 30 lbs from my reconstructive surgery on my ankle and couldn't do anything for 3 months..just lie in bed and take pain pills to manage the post surgery pains. What would you recommend I do then? This is just day 1 of my diet of 7.

Day 1:
Breakfast:
4 egg whites and 2whole eggs scrambled or hard boiled, 2 or 3 slices of whole grain bread and 1 small apple. 1 Multi Vitamin
Snack:
6 oz of Greek Yogurt with any fruit you want or a grilled chicken breast with a tortilla wrap and fruit
Lunch:
Grilled or Baked Chicken Breast, 1 cup of cooked white rice, 1 cup of beans and 1 cup of green beans or broccoli or a salad
Snack:
1 scoop of Max Pro Protein Shake with 1 scoop of Carbo Max 6 oz of skim or 2% milk or water and 1 oz of unsalted almonds
Dinner:
Grilled or baked chicken breast, 1 cup of white rice, 1 cup of beans and 1 cup of cup of green beans or broccoli.
Before Bed Time Snack:
1 scoop of Max Pro Protein Shake with 4 oz of water or 4 egg whites scrambled or hard boiled or 6 oz of greek yogurt

**DanB** · 12-30-2011, 01:06 PM

100gram oats with breakfast and snack protein shake will bump carbs and cals nicely and should aid in your goals, post this in diet section for some more advise from the guys there more experienced than myself but id also strive to have protein source from meat in every meal rather than greek yougart, what do you have pwo?

**DanB** · 12-30-2011, 01:31 PM

i just read orginal post, i withdraw comment about bumping carbs and cals with oats as i see your trying to cut, gbrice has a cutting log in the nutrition section, you could do alot worse than adopting his diet and with sufficient cardio you should drop b/f and possible increase lbm with good lifting regieme

**DanB** · 12-30-2011, 01:35 PM

cant find his cutting log, mabey i was imagineing it lol, this thread i have linked should help with your goals
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...nd-sample-diet...

**neversurrendr** · 12-30-2011, 03:57 PM

So just clomid for PCT basically? I would at least add some arimidex and/or hcg ...

**stpete** · 12-30-2011, 04:12 PM

You asked what you're doing wrong? Well, the most important thing is using AAS at your age. Your next cycle should consist of busting your balls in the gym while following a solid diet. And yes, yours need work.
Ever think about getting married and having kids? Being able to "satisfy" the old lady?
I suggest you stay away from juice for at least 6-7 years(because of previous usage) and be nice to yourself. We only get one chance in this life to do things right. Well, as best we can anyway.
Please take a moment to listen and think about your future.

**BigGuy90** · 12-30-2011, 04:25 PM

Thanks Dan B I appreciate the link given to me, Never Surrendr I have Adex on hand but I was thinking of just using the product Erase as an AI instead of the Adex. Do you know of the product? If I were to need HCG then how much would I need a week to help me along with a cycle? I planned a 3 month cycle of test 400 and eq 400 mg/week for 12 weeks..then following through with that diet I was hoping to get cut and big..but I'm seeing I shouldnt mess around with AAS at my age and just stick to being natural. Hey StPete...around what age do you recommend then me being able to start taking Anabolic Steroids ?

**stpete** · 12-30-2011, 04:38 PM

Doesn't really matter does it?

Good Luck to you...

I put it in my post.

**Machinek69** · 12-31-2011, 06:14 AM

25. 25 is the correct age.
dont risk ur dick.

**BigGuy90** · 12-31-2011, 10:24 AM

Ok thanks guys..I like my endo system and my dick. I want to have kids so I'm just gonna wait:/ Ill give the cycle to my dad or something as a New Years Present.

**The Bear 79** · 12-31-2011, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuy90

Ok thanks guys..I like my endo system and my dick. I want to have kids so I'm just gonna wait:/ Ill give the cycle to Bear as a New Years Present.

Would u like my address?!?!?

**BigGuy90** · 12-31-2011, 10:47 AM

haha I forgot I said Bear! you would trust a stranger to ship you things in 25ml vials?

**The Bear 79** · 12-31-2011, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuy90

haha I forgot I said Bear! you would trust a stranger to ship you things in 25ml vials?

I don't care who sends it 2 me, especially when its free! The worst that could happen is its bunk & I throw it away @ no cost 2 me....................