Help please

**sidneylandman** · 01-06-2012, 01:06 PM

hey there. im 24 male, 1,85 meter tall. weight 85 kg. bodyfat 8.5 %. im training now aprox 3 years. doing my 3 rd cycle . doing deca 2oo mg per week and sustanon 500 mg per week. and testoviren 50 mg n day.i wanted to do this for 12 weeks. but now thinking of doing a winstrol cycle directly after this as i want a lean ripped look when i end the cycle ,im a tall skinny type guy. use to weigh 62 kg (verry skinny) so now i wana know how must i do it how many weeks must i do the deca and sust before i go on wini and when must i do my pct and what pct would you recomend etc, please help

**ScotchGuard02** · 01-06-2012, 03:09 PM

You're going to be stressing your HPTA for 12 weeks on an injectable cycle. If you run an 8 week winstrol cycle immediately after, you're at a 20 week cycle. That's hard on your HPTA and will be harder to recover.

**bass** · 01-06-2012, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

You're going to be stressing your HPTA for 12 weeks on an injectable cycle. If you run an 8 week winstrol cycle immediately after, you're at a 20 week cycle. That's hard on your HPTA and will be harder to recover.

you beat me to it!

**sidneylandman** · 01-07-2012, 12:23 AM

so when should i take the winstrol , and what pct should i use after the deca and sust and for how long, i been told wait two weeks the do clomid and arimidex for 3 weeks to 4 weeks

**cro** · 01-07-2012, 05:50 PM

take the winsrol after time on + pct = time off then take winny

**10nispro** · 01-07-2012, 06:01 PM

That's 850mgs of test a week!!!! Overkill in my opinion.

personally I don't think you need to cycle cause I'm concerned your knowledge isn't where it needs to be when taking steroids . You are just throwing back to back cycles together and not seeming to know why its not smart. Also, your asking about pct's which shows me more concern.

please slow down do some research and do things correct before you hurt yourself.

**havehotasianwife** · 01-07-2012, 06:29 PM

Its recommended you take atleast the equal time off that you were on. Most of all, enjoy your time here, have respect for elder members, make sure your diet is on check, over the age of 25 preferably. Read all the educational stickies and it will answer most if not all your questions. Just curious, have you tried a strictly test cycle or a test plus dianabol cycle? Its a common beginner cycle recommended of this site