Critique my FIRST EVER Cycle

[Elgeno]

Hi everyone, I'm new here but have posted in the peptides section and have learned a lot from the members here. I've come up with my first cycle and would love to hear what anyone has to say.

Feel free to critique and suggest things. I'm still unsure about the PCT and what AI to run throughout, but here's what I've got so far..

Weeks 1 - 12
Test-E - 400mg/week (at 2x200mg inections/week)
Arimidex - 0.5mg EOD
Lectrozole on hand in case of gyno

PCT -- Unsure, want to get the actual cycle part down first. Nolvadex and Clomid are what I was thinking but have recently been suggested Aromsasin and HCG (of which I need to research).

I feel it's important to note that I have preexisting pubescent gyno. My nipples are puffy. They developed at puberty; I saw a doctor at the time and he said it's because of hormones. They never went away. I feel this would make me prone to gyno and therefore think I should run an AI throughout the cycle. But I will listen to anything suggested to me in regards to this/my cycle/my pct.

My Stats
Male
22 years old (23 in June, would wait until then to run cycle)
Weight: 84kg (185lbs) after cutting from 95kg (209lbs).
Height: 184cm (roughly 6'0"-6'1")
Body Fat: 10-12% (haven't been training for the last 2 weeks due to having appendix removed)
Body Type: Natural, ecto, hardgainer. Nice, broad shoulders. Ridiculously long arms though. Hard to make them look bulky.
Training History: 3-4 years of serious training. Been lifting since 16, but only got diet in line at 18-19.
Goals: Gain LBM, minimal body fat. I want to look really good. Big fan of the old-school bodybuilders like Arnold and Zane. Not so much concerned about being monsters like they were, but I want it to be obvious I train seriously.

My Diet
Meal 1 - WPI Shake
0f/1c/27p/109cal

Meal 2 - 4 whole eggs, 2 whites, 100g oats, 2 slices of toast, 1/4 avocado
33.5f/105c/48.7p/1072cal

Meal 3 - 200g Brown rice, 150g tuna in olive oil, 100g brocoli
21f/62c/40p/666cal

Meal 4 - 4 kangaroo sausages, 300g sweet potato, 30 almonds
20f/60c/45p/605cal

Pre Workout - 20g WPI + 40g waxy maize
0f/37c/16p/220cal

Post Workout - 50g WPI + 80g Waxy Maize
2f/75c/40p/480cal

Dinner - 150g chicken breast, 150g baked potato, 30 almonds, 100g brocoli
20f/40c/60p/580cal

Before Bed - 250g cottage cheese
11f/7c/31p/260cal

TOTAL: 108g of fat // 380g of carbs // 307g of protein // 3990 cal

My Split
Sunday: Legs (quad/ham)
Monday: Arms
Tuesday: Shoulders/Calves
Wednesday: REST
Thursday: Back
Friday: Chest
Saturday: REST
Obviously big compound movements. 8-12 rep range. Set range 3-5 per exercise. Few isos to finish off depending on the muscle group.
Every 6 weeks I do a low rep day to shock the muscles. Every 8 weeks I'm changing my routine so I don't adjust.




Any feedback at all would be greatly appreciated, guys. This is definitely one of the most helpful boards I've come across.

[Times Roman]

Welcome mate!
A tad young for AAS, but at 23, I'm not going to hammer your for it. A little concern about the preexisting gyno, just as you are, so the on hand letro is a good thing. I'lll let someone else guide you on PCT, since not my thing (TRT)
First cycle looks good, absolutely no issues there. Good solid first cycle. Remember as you continue, just increase your cycle a bit as you need to break through your plateaus. Add additional compounds slowly too, one at a time, never two unknowns at once. Avoid pyramiding your cycles as long as possible. Remember, with aas, less is more.
BodyFat% looks in line, would prefer to see more natural weight before starting this cycle. Let me ask you a question. Hit the brick wall yet or are gains still coming slowly?
on the diet, i'd skip the toast, or at least sub for whole grain toast. not sure about the waxi maze? what is the gly***ic index saying about that? not liking the baked potato, easily converts to sugar. should sub with a more complex carbohydrate. cottage cheese right before bed looks good, slow acting casean protein found in there. overall macros look reasonable, 3900 cals look good. what is your tdee? figure that out yet? on non work out days, what do you sub for your workout shakes? looks like at a basic level you've got the bases covered for the green veggies.
your routine looks reasonable with a 5 day split week - you've hit on all the major muscle groups.

OK. so far, so good, could use some minor tune ups, but you should be OK and a few extra simple carbs (maybe the toast, not sure about the baked potato), won't hurt.

What about supps?

Alot of newbs seem to go overboard, and buy the fancy compounds with names that come in and out of fashion every other thursday?

(you may want to post your diet in the nutrition section, and have some one like Gbrice tear it up. He's really up on nutrition, and does an excellent job, better than i can do)

Tell you what mate. It's refreshing to see a youngster really take this seriously, and have most of the homework done ahead of time.

Good show!
---Roman

[Elgeno]

Thanks a lot for the feedback, mate. Time and effort appreciated.

The toast was in there just so I could bring up my carbos before training. It's of course wholegrain toast. I initially wanted to avoid all wheat products as they're associated with high estrogen levels, but I really needed something to eat while on the drive the work. The baked potato I didn't really want either, but again, wanted to bring up my amount of carbs.

Waxy Maize is a high GI carb. Good for post workout. I added some in pre-workout as well for a bit of kick. Non-workout days I actually haven't considered, good call!! Thinking about it now... not real sure. More meat, veg and low GI carbs. Roo patties perhaps.. steak? Haha. I'll have a think.

I've been cutting the last few months so I haven't been expecting to gain any muscle. I start my bulk in Feb and won't cycle until at least July. That's only if I'm not happy with how my bulk is going. If I'm making gains I won't cycle at all.

Sups are just the basics. WPI. BCAAs. Glutamine. Mulitvitamin. Fish oil. I'll have some casein but only use if I really need to. Also want to get a high GI carb for post workout. Occasionally use Mesomorph pre-workout but not consistently.

Think that covers everything you brought up. Thanks again, mate! Will hit up the nutritional section tomorrow.

[Times Roman]

you can sub a yam or sweet potato for a normal "baked" potato. More complex carb, lower GI than white potato

I hope you stick around the board. For a youngster, you've got your head on right!

Cheers!
---Roman

[Times Roman]

and btw... make sure you have all your pct gear in front of you BEFORE you start your cycle. Now go to the pct section and figure that out. I'd help you, but outside my experience with trt

[Elgeno]

BUMP!!

What are everyone's thoughts on keeping arimidex during the cycle. Then in PCT using aromasin ? I've had a lot of people suggest different things for the PCT. It's very, very important to me that I return everything to normal when I'm done.

And I'll keep lectro on hand in case gyno gets out of control.

Will absolutely be using HCG .

[Times Roman]

you might have better luck in our PCT section here..
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...CYCLE-THERAPY)
some of our vets stick to certain areas.
just a thought?

[jackedfibras]

Whats wrong with the normal baked potato? Isn't it a complex carb as well? And shouldn't we be considering the gly***ic load(GL) rather than the GI?

Just wondering..

[alexISthrowed]

Whats wrong with the normal baked potato? Isn't it a complex carb as well? And shouldn't we be considering the gly***ic load(GL) rather than the GI?

Just wondering..

I would say a normal white potato is fine. I eat all white rice until contest prep and it keeps me very full.

[jasc]

As far as an AI, Aromasin or adex, choice is yours. Aromasin seems to to be becoming more popular as it doesn't have a rebound like adex, but both work well. The rebound is overhyped imo, if you taper down the dose. Run this during cycle to prevent gyno n control sides, no need during pct.

HCG should be run on cycle @ 250iu 2x a week

PCT:
Nolvadex @ 40/40/20/20
Clomid @ 100/50/50/50 or Torem @ 120/60/60/60
(Torem is a 2nd gen SERM, it serves the same function as clomid with less sides)
Pct legnth should be 4 - 6 wks, diff people recommend diff legnths. I err on the side of caution, so a mild cycle w/hcg, I like 4 wks full, taper down the 5th wk just to be safe.

[Times Roman]

Whats wrong with the normal baked potato? Isn't it a complex carb as well? And shouldn't we be considering the gly***ic load(GL) rather than the GI?

Just wondering..

it converts to sugar rather quickly. this results in an insulin dump which isn't good either. typically, when it comes to carbs, the more complex the better, unless PWO.

[Times Roman]

I would say a normal white potato is fine. I eat all white rice until contest prep and it keeps me very full.

If i have a choice, i would always choose brown rice. it has all the fiber and nutrients, and converts to sugar much more slowly than white rice.
White rice has been processed, fiber and husk removed, and much of the nutrients are absent also.

[alexISthrowed]

If i have a choice, i would always choose brown rice. it has all the fiber and nutrients, and converts to sugar much more slowly than white rice.
White rice has been processed, fiber and husk removed, and much of the nutrients are absent also.

The difference in gi between white and brown rice is very small. In the off season I would perfer a bit of an insulin spike to store the nutrients I am eating and keep my glycogen stores full. During a contest prep or normal diet I would agree brown rice is better. It keeps me full a bit longer which is beneficial during a calorie deficit.