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    Help with first cycle ever, at 39 y/o

    I'm just thinking "I've read enough to be dangerous", and would appreciate some input from the experienced people on the site.

    A little background - I'm 39, 5-9, 165#. 19% BF. I worked out some in college, but my frame never seemed to grow. I did gain strength, but never size. Even drinking the 2500 calorie shakes, lots of protein, etc back in the 90's, I always hovered at the same weight. I graduated HS at 115#, was 135# by 25 and at almost 40, I'm only 165. I am fairly active, and attribute that to some of it. From scuba diving to skiing, most of my hobbies are outside.

    I joined a gym about 4 months ago to increase my cardio. I've been pretty good about doing the bike 30-40/mins a day 5-6 days a week, at 90-95% heart rate (mid 150's). I've just started weight training with a friend who has done some cycles, and have really been giving it some consideration. At this point, I've done a bunch of reading and think I have an idea of what to do, but would like to hear input from you guys.

    First, I must also say that I can't handle the needle thing (yeah, I'm a wuss in that dept)...just seeing one puts me to sweating and light-headedness. I thank my pediatrician for that...I can still remember the "shot days" when I was a kid.

    So, I have to do this all oral.

    Currently, I'm thinking:

    Cycle:
    Weeks 1-8, D-bol, 30mg/day
    Weeks 9-10, D-bol tapering off to 0mg/day
    Weeks 1-10, 250iu HCG, 2x week

    PCT:
    Week 10-14, Nolvadex 20mg/day


    A few immediate questions I have:
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    1. Is HCG offered as an oral? I haven't seen it anywhere. What would my alternate oral option be?
    2. Do I stop the HCG at the end of the cycle, or continue during PCT?
    3. I have read about also using Proviron 100mg/day with the Nolvadex during PCT. Is this necessary? My limited understanding shows them doing about the same things?
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    Thanks in advance for the help and guidance!
    Last edited by Racer X; 01-08-2012 at 07:56 PM.

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    You've have done tons of research and came up with this...............how is that possible?
    Also, it sounds like you've been lifting weights for only a few weeks.

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    BTW you have to pin HCG with a slin pin there is no HCG cap's.

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    10 weeks of an oral straight is not smart. A 25guage needle you can't even feel it. Stop being a wuss. People now even use slin pin's and split up shots. You can't even feel them.

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    if you just started weight training the is no reason to jump to steroids. You will end up getting injured. You body is just getting used to working out with weights and you need time to build some naturally.

    And that cycle is a horrible idea.
    hcg is only injections
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    if you are afraid of needles AAS are not for you, also wait two weeks to start pct, and run test e at least 250mg a week if you really want to run d-bol. i think you need a lot more reading before jumping into AAS. hcg does not supplement test, it keep your natural test running but not 100% which is why test is the foundation of all cycles.

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    BTW you have to pin HCG with a slin pin there is no HCG cap's. So do this

    Week 1-4 40mg DBOL
    Week 1-10 400mg of test c, e, pinning slin pin EOD or Test Prop pinning 50mg ED
    Week 1-10 50mg provirin ED, 12.5mg Aromosin ED
    Week 1-10 500iu HCG twice a week


    PCT
    Week 11-12 500iu HCG EOD
    Week 12-13 50mg Clomid , 20mg Nolvadex
    Week 13-15 25mg Clomid , 20mg Nolva

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