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    Thoughts about a cycle

    This would be a third cycle first two were Test e only. 1st cycle 600mg / week 2nd cycle 900 / week.

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    Age 37
    Body fat current 10% but the third cycle would be started when I'm at 7%
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    6' 4"
    Lifting hard for 5 years after a decade break. Before that break I lived in the gym D2 football etc.

    So I'm thinking

    1-4 Dbol starter 50mg a week
    1-10 Test e or c 750mg a week (different source they don't carry the test 300 I've used in the past)
    1-10 Arimadex 1mg / ED
    8-12 Winny 50mg /ED

    13-16 PCT of Novla 20mg/ED and clomid 50/ED

    Goal is to be mid single digits body fat and increase overall size while maintaining the same body fat.

    I'm not comfortable using Mast, Primo, or Tren , the hairloss sides scare the crap out of me so I'm trying to replicate the same results with the winny.
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    IMOP you should be in the gym for a good 6 months before thinking about aas.Reason being your muscles wont keep up with your ligaments and tendons and you could really injure yourself.So after a 10 year break you got some catching up to do.Plus you dont need that much test after a 10 year layoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    IMOP you should be in the gym for a good 6 months before thinking about aas.Reason being your muscles wont keep up with your ligaments and tendons and you could really injure yourself.So after a 10 year break you got some catching up to do.Plus you dont need that much test after a 10 year layoff.
    I've been in the gym the last 5 years. 5 years ago was the end of my decade break in lifting.

    I lifted 3 years before my 1st cycle at 35. That was 2 years ago.
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    No AI or HCG ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGuy90 View Post
    No AI or HCG?
    Could run Anastrozole during cycle but hadn't thought of HCG . HCG is used to keep the "berries" bigger and make recovery easier correct? I asked about an AI before my last cycle and got mixed reviews on if it was needed so I didn't use it.

    EDIT* Based upon the acne I got on the last cycle AI is going to be a must on this one. so add 1mg / ED of Anastrozole to the above cycle.
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    Well using an AI could possibly inhibit some bigger gains and that's why users only supplement an AI if they can not handle the sides no longer. Yes HCG is used for that and help your test levels come back as quickly and efficiently as possible.. If you could I would try and double the dose of clomid and nolva only for the first week just to be safe, but if not then otherwise your cycle is pretty sound! Goodluck with it bro

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    Sorry Bro the way to put it you just started back up.Goodluck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGuy90 View Post
    Well using an AI could possibly inhibit some bigger gains and that's why users only supplement an AI if they can not handle the sides no longer. Yes HCG is used for that and help your test levels come back as quickly and efficiently as possible.. If you could I would try and double the dose of clomid and nolva only for the first week just to be safe, but if not then otherwise your cycle is pretty sound! Goodluck with it bro
    Thank you for your input. I'll try the double dose of Clomid and Novla for the 1st week.

    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Sorry Bro the way to put it you just started back up.Goodluck.
    Sorry for the confusion. I knew what I meant in my head guess I wasn't very good at translating it. Thanks for the good luck. Looks like I'm g2g when I get the body fat down.

    Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evander87

    EDIT* Based upon the acne I got on the last cycle AI is going to be a must on this one. so add 1mg / ED of Anastrozole to the above cycle.
    Too much adex.. u should start between .25-.5mg eod and adjust from there unless you know you're heavily gyno prone.
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