Anyone care to help me out? Need some advice

[squeeJee]

Hi guys, I've been on this forum a couple weeks now and I've learned a lot from it. I am new to the use of steroids and I just finished my first cycle of Test Prop 100. It went great, and I look great, and I'm planning on beginning another cycle soon. Please to anyone who's reading this remember when you first started out, all the research you did and all the questions you still had. I'm at that stage now, I'm saying this because of previous threads I've posted I've gotten bashed about using steroids too young of an age (23), or I just need to do more research about my gear. Truth is, I just need some reliable help from some guys who have been where I am now. I want to do this the best way possible, and the safest, so please any information you have will greatly be appreciated. I have an order coming in, 2 bottles of Test Propionate 100, 2 bottles of Test Enanthate 250, some HCG, and clomidine. The Prop is listed 1mL/100mL. Which bottle of gear do you guys suggest I start off with? What can I expect? What do you guys suggest I do while on a cycle and coming off? Please, I'll be your grasshopper and you guys can be my senseis I'll be checking this thread daily and posting updates, I should be receiving the gear within a week or so.

[gixxerboy1]

as you were already told. At 23 you are risking serious damage to your hpta. And running multiple cycles is only going to make it worse.
If you have read and learned on here why would you just finish a cycle and then start another soon. You want someone to guide you but it doesnt sound like you want to listen unless its what you want to hear.

[Phyll]

Bro you said you wanted to hear from people who have been in the same situation as you. Well, I have been and it sucked and not worth it. I was too young, immature and was looking to AAS as a shortcut to quick gains. But you need to fully explore your natural potential before cycling man. If not guess what? Unless you commit to staying on all the time chances are you will loose all gains while on. Your body just won't have the foundation necessary to hold on to any gains. Not to mention that playing with hormones is serious business and can really mess you up... I don't think you should be running anything at that age. Why not just stick with a serious kick ass diet/workout plan for the next 6 months - 1 year? Then if you don't gain anything from that we can talk again?

[squeeJee]

And I completely understand where you're coming from Phyll. I've been working out for as long as I can remember. I just went through a shoulder surgery 2 and a half years ago which put a halt on things but I've been back in the gym since. The reason I'm looking to steroids is because for some reason I can't get back to where I was. Trust me, I'm completely committed to working out, I just need some sort of help because my gains have come to a halt.

[squeeJee]

A friend who's been on steroids recommend I do some HCG after a cycle to "jump start" my testes again, the terms he used. Is this not what I should be doing? I'm willing to listen gixxerboy, I just need someone that's willing to help me before telling me I'm making a wrong decision and close the door ya know? After the cycle of prop I noticed some really great gains, so I figured why not take a break, and try it again? But this time around, make sure I'm doing it correctly. If you say it's dangerous and I should stop, I will, but I'm 5'8, 170lbs, and Asian, I don't think it's in my genes to get any bigger, so I considered steroids. I haven't reached my goal yet, and I really want to. I'm sure you and everyone else on this forum knows this feeling.

[squeeJee]

No no, I don't plan on cycling again as soon as these bottles come in right away. I just ordered more ahead of time to avoid multiple shipping costs. I know I shouldn't be starting a cycle already. I'm currently on my 2nd week of HCG.

[gixxerboy1]

why are you taking hcg after your cycle?

[gixxerboy1]

hcg is used on cycle and up to pct.
How long ago did you end your cycle?

[squeeJee]

I ended my cycle 2 weeks ago, and started my HCG cycle on my last week.

[squeeJee]

Like I said, I won't just take your advice and ignore it, I respect the fact that you guys know what you're doing and what you're talking about. And obviously, I'm new to this stuff, but I just don't know what else to do. I hadn't seen any gains for 6-8 months of working out before my cycle. I appreciate your help gixxer, and I myself also ride a 2011 600 gixxer

[gixxerboy1]

get nolva and clomid and stop the hcg
do the nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 50/50/25/25

[squeeJee]

Again, I appreciate your help gixxer, I know I must be annoying the shit out of you because of my lack of knowledge and what I may be doing is stupid...but where I was, I was willing to do anything to get where I wanted to be.

[squeeJee]

Okay thanks, I've read about Nolva is it short for Nolvadex? Or are those two completely different things? My distributor doesn't carry it, where can I find it? And the 40/40/20/20 are those weekly doses?

[gixxerboy1]

yes it is short for nolvadex. you can get it from ar-r the banner in top right of the screen