Advice for Primobolan and Winstrol Stack

[navman]

Hey guys

This is my first ever thread on a forum so i apologize if i have made any mistakes.
I signed up to this website because of the lack of information on the internet that I am after.
I'm about to start a Primobolan (600mg weekly) and Winstrol (400mg weekly) cycle for 8 weeks, as my aim is to cut down. I was mainly wondering if anyone has tried this stack before and what their view is on it?

Please don't suggest adding any other steroids to the cycle, e.g test etc! If you would like to recommend some other supplements like fish oil for the joint pains Winstrol causes then i'm all ears. Also if you can suggest how i should cycle it eg pyramid etc.

I train 5 days a week. And diet is not 2 impressive. Once i start the stack i will be cycling my carbs.

Bottom line:
What do you think of the stack?
Best way to cycle?
Any NON steroid supplementation?
If you have used either one or both how did you go?

[Schmidty]

I would run the primo a little longer like 10 wks atleast and maybe keep cialis on hand just in case you need it. Is your winny oral or inj? doesnt make much of a difference im just wondering

[navman]

Ok so i'll run the primo for 10 weeks 600mg a week. Have you had experience with this cycle before if so how did you go or any one you know?
Winny will be inj.

[Schmidty]

I have never ran that specific cycle but iv got a fair amount of experience with DHTs and gear in general. The only thing you have to cautious about is 1 your junk working and 2 your hair line

[alexISthrowed]

Hey guys

This is my first ever thread on a forum so i apologize if i have made any mistakes.
I signed up to this website because of the lack of information on the internet that I am after.
I'm about to start a Primobolan (600mg weekly) and Winstrol (400mg weekly) cycle for 8 weeks, as my aim is to cut down. I was mainly wondering if anyone has tried this stack before and what their view is on it?

Please don't suggest adding any other steroids to the cycle, e.g test etc! If you would like to recommend some other supplements like fish oil for the joint pains Winstrol causes then i'm all ears. Also if you can suggest how i should cycle it eg pyramid etc.

Man up and get over your fear of needles. This cycle is terrible. Steroids are not something to do half ass.

I train 5 days a week. And diet is not 2 impressive. Once i start the stack i will be cycling my carbs.

Aas will not make up for a poor diet

Bottom line:
What do you think of the stack?
It's horrible
Best way to cycle?
With test
Any NON steroid supplementation?
If you have used either one or both how did you go?

Answers in bold.

[navman]

I'm not looking at making huge gains, I'm big enough and just want to cut down. I'm far from afraid of needles. I'm just after a specific result and these 2 products from what i hae read can offer exactly that.
Why do you recommend test? Also what should i replace test with or just add it into the stack ?

[DanB]

Your diet should be your main priority as it has more influence on gains and/or dropping bodyfat than anything else

[navman]

That is true i have everything laid out and ready to go it just has thrown me off because of how expensive it is getting primobolan and winstrol in australia so i'm saving all out for them and get into the diet hard when i cycle

[Spears88]

Answers in bold.

Best answer ^^

[DanB]

so why not run with a perfect diet for 6 months, im willing to bet you would meet your goals WITHOUT AAS if you done this

[navman]

I think that even if i ran a 100% diet i wouldn't achieve the particular look i am after. So I will be doing both the eating and cycling for maximum effect.

[navman]

Answers in bold.

Why is it horrible?
I have read everywhere that Primobolan is rubbish in small dosses. Hence the 600mg a week.

[alexISthrowed]

Why is it horrible?
I have read everywhere that Primobolan is rubbish in small dosses. Hence the 600mg a week.

Test needs to be the base of any cycle. These compounds are going to shut down hpta function leaving you with very little test. Do you know the side effects of extremely low testosterone? First cycle should always be test only without exceptions. Drop the primo, drop the winny, and get some test, you will get much more out of the cycle. Why does everyone think you can't cut on test?

[navman]

Sorry if i sound uneducated on steroids, whole reason i'm here. Is test steroids like sus250, tren etc if so what one do you recommend IF not what is it just briefly. Sorry for the silly question but i've only been reading about this for the past week.

[BG]

600 isnt enough with the primo and the winny dose s
is low also. To see any good results from running these two you need to be under 10% bf.

[TRT2010]

what u r planning on doing is not smart at all. Post a pic of yourself so we can judge whether or not you can get there without gear. Im sure you prob could. You are not ready for any of this bro, not by a long shot. Sorry. But if you are hell bent on doing it then just start with some test 400mg/10-12 weeks but again i dnt think you are ready for that. Good luck man

[jasc]

Sorry if i sound uneducated on steroids, whole reason i'm here. Is test steroids like sus250, tren etc if so what one do you recommend IF not what is it just briefly. Sorry for the silly question but i've only been reading about this for the past week.

Common types of test (testosterone):
Test E / Test C / Test Prop / Sust (sus250)

Tren is NOT a type of test. Completely different compound all together.

[navman]

Thanks for your help guys i can tell i'm on the wrong path with what i was considering. I will do my research allot more starting off with test. I saw allot of good information on this website but most importantly i will be taking in DanB's advice in and work on my food allot more before i start taking anything.

[jasc]

Thanks for your help guys i can tell i'm on the wrong path with what i was considering. I will do my research allot more starting off with test. I saw allot of good information on this website but most importantly i will be taking in DanB's advice in and work on my food allot more before i start taking anything.

Good idea bro.. Holding off is a tough thing to do but a very wise choice. cheers!
Hit the Nutrition Resource forum here and they'll help iron out a solid diet. While you're workin on diet keep on researching AAS to see if they're right for you and proper use. Come back and throw us whatever questions you have

[The Bear 79]

An entire thread FULL of cycle advice & not a single person asked 4 stats..................

[DanB]

from op's profile
About navman

Biography:
Lifting naturally for 5 years have seen great gains but am now serious about cutting down!

Location:
Australia

Interests:
Gym, Strategy involved activities

Occupation:
Personal Trainer

Age:
21

Height:
182 cms

Weight:
81

Body Fat %:
15

Training Experience:
5 years

Bodybuilding Knowledge:
I read ALLOT and have experienced ALLOT.

Cycle Experience:
Never been there.

Bodybuilding Competitions:
None yet!

[The Bear 79]

So r u saying every1 looked @ his profile & knew he was not ready but didn't care? Cuz it seems 2 me like NOBODY looked @ his profile. His profile & the pic he posted in another thread r how I landed on the conclusion his diet & training r wrong & he's too young. OP wut r u gona "cut"?!?! U hav no foundation, if u cut anymor, u will b Ethiopian.

[DanB]

no his profile has only 4 views and between me and you we make up half of them, i was just putting it out there for everyone to see before they try advise again,