someone tell me whats going on please !!!

**flyguy6661** · 01-17-2012, 05:21 AM

okay so im just into week 6 of my second cycle of enanthate 500mg e,w started off using d-bol but dropped it week 3 as it suppressed my appetite massively so wasnt getting the gains i wanted from it, also running a-dex .25 mg ed. i have never had erection problems before untill the other night i went home with a girl things went sweet, met up again the next day all cushty, met up again a few days after and not soo good ! erection didnt last for very long, im aware this happens to alot of people now and again so i wasnt too upset about it, but it was playing on my mind slightly and feared about it happening again, anyway met up again 2 days ago and im not sure if its because it was playing on my mind & the nerves of not getting one got to me but i couldnt get an erection !! this is not good, i have no problem getting boners to wank with when im bored a home so im just wondering if this is all a mind set thing happening to me right now and its not the AAS that are stopping me its more nerves of not getting one and the thought playing on my mind ?? what you guys think
thanks

**lovbyts** · 01-17-2012, 05:26 AM

E2 is to high, E2 is to low, your test is fake or under dosed so taking the AI is removing to much estrogen?

Go get your blood tested and find out what is going on otherwise it's a guessing game.

**cuzzbrah** · 01-17-2012, 05:31 AM

i've had problems like impotency, feeling less energetic and upset, no gains at all or only gains from eating above calorie maintenance.

i suffered all these sides for one reason: there is LOTS of fake/very underdosed gear in my area

**flyguy6661** · 01-17-2012, 05:46 AM

i feel good to be honest, diets going well, i trust my source and weight has slightly gone up and so is strength, also as its enanthate its at its peak around week 5 yea ? so im hoping to start getting better gains. so is there a chance this could be a mentally thing ? is it worth concidering stopping cycle and jumping onto PCT ???
thanks for the responce

**Bulkn** · 01-17-2012, 07:15 AM

what was your first cycle and how much ai did you run?
If you can, get some bloodwork.

**lovbyts** · 01-17-2012, 07:41 AM

If you are sure of your source and sure your test is good if it was me I would cut my AI in 1/2 and see if it gets better. If it does but not enough cut it out all together after a few days. If there is no change or it gets worse then double up on the AI and watch for change.

**The Bear 79** · 01-17-2012, 07:43 AM

The gear knows ur under 25 & its fvckin u up 2 teach u a lesson.

**lovbyts** · 01-17-2012, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

The gear knows ur under 25 & its fvckin u up 2 teach u a lesson.

Karma. LOL

**BBrian** · 01-17-2012, 08:21 AM

If someone is under the age of 25 and ALREADY ON A CYCLE, there could be no better time to lend advice. There's a difference between setting up a 20-year-old with a cycle recommendation, than advising on what they should be doing now that they are knee-deep in it. It's getting to where every 1 out of 2 posts I read has a pointless message stating "You're under 25! Nannynanny booboo I caught you!", and not because it is presented in a way that educates or enlightens, but rather like a slap on the hand so that someone's silly ego behind a keyboard is entertained. Stop the false sense of authority! Alright, I feel better now.

flyguy, your side-affects sound more like that of taking only deca , but injecting a long ester such as enanthate once a week with no other stacks at this point could certainly cause this problem. If you were stacking this with something like prop 2-3 times per week, you'd probably not have ED. Additionally, most people should recommend that you begin taking HCG immediately, for instance 250-300iu injections twice a week would probably suffice, to unatrophy the gonads. Taking .25mg of arimidex everyday should be sufficient, but we're all a little different. Do you feel any side affects of estrogen (i.e. depression, lethargy, bloating, acne)?

**The Bear 79** · 01-17-2012, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by BBrian

If someone is under the age of 25 and ALREADY ON A CYCLE, there could be no better time to lend advice. There's a difference between setting up a 20-year-old with a cycle recommendation, than advising on what they should be doing now that they are knee-deep in it. It's getting to where every 1 out of 2 posts I read has a pointless message stating "You're under 25! Nannynanny booboo I caught you!", and not because it is presented in a way that educates or enlightens, but rather like a slap on the hand so that someone's silly ego behind a keyboard is entertained. Stop the false sense of authority! Alright, I feel better now.

flyguy, your side-affects sound more like that of taking only deca, but injecting a long ester such as enanthate once a week with no other stacks at this point could certainly cause this problem. If you were stacking this with something like prop 2-3 times per week, you'd probably not have ED. Additionally, most people should recommend that you begin taking HCG immediately, for instance 250-300iu injections twice a week would probably suffice, to unatrophy the gonads. Taking .25mg of arimidex everyday should be sufficient, but we're all a little different. Do you feel any side affects of estrogen (i.e. depression, lethargy, bloating, acne)?

Get over it.............

And BTW, every time some1 under 25 perposes a cycle, they r not just told ur 2 yung "Nannynanny booboo"

they r educated as 2 y their age matters. If u dont like it, dont read em.

**BBrian** · 01-17-2012, 08:44 AM

I really didn't want to offend you on this matter. I've read many of your posts and your knowledge and opinions are overwhelmingly helpful, but sometimes the comments I referred to seem to contradict your ability to help, keeping in mind of course that telling people they are too young to do AAS's is in fact good advice. I could be out of line here, and again I don't want to offend you, but I hope it at least let you consider my perspective.

**gixxerboy1** · 01-17-2012, 09:01 AM

get bloodwook. its the only way to know whats going on

**The Bear 79** · 01-17-2012, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by BBrian

I really didn't want to offend you on this matter. I've read many of your posts and your knowledge and opinions are overwhelmingly helpful, but sometimes the comments I referred to seem to contradict your ability to help, keeping in mind of course that telling people they are too young to do AAS's is in fact good advice. I could be out of line here, and again I don't want to offend you, but I hope it at least let you consider my perspective.

Considered & understood.

**flyguy6661** · 01-17-2012, 09:18 AM

thanks for the usefull info so far, the main reason i thought it to be mentally is like i said i have no problem getting it hard if i want to watch porn etc only when i feel under pressure about it happening, but yes i will try get blood work done, would you say it might be a good idea to stop cycle now and start PCT ?? or continue as planned and monitor what happens ??? and shall i drop the ai completely ? i am using it to combat slight gyno i had preveous cycle which was prop & var, but so far nothing has come back.
cheers

**Whoady** · 01-17-2012, 10:30 AM

You have performance anxiety, ta-da! I've had that plenty of times, now i take a maxidus pill before sex and im guaranteed to get hard when i want to for the next 4 days.

**marcus300** · 01-17-2012, 10:40 AM

If I remember right you was told about the dangers of shutting down a system whats not fully developed or matured. I would say this is only the start of your problems. When you ignore advice this is what can happen.

Come off cycle straight away run PCT and get blood work done and HOPE you haven't caused damage

**Whoady** · 01-17-2012, 10:49 AM

Here's my question. Everyone who talks about shutting your hpta down seems to be guys who are on trt or who never come off. Doing steroids will shut you down and cause libido and erection problems regardless of whether you take proper precautions. I have read on many forums, not just this one, of guys who have problems even with proper dosaging, cycling, pct. Why doesn't anyone admit that steroids do cause damage to the hpta and that taking steroids is many times a one way route? Even if you start cycling at age 30 you will still damage your hpta. Its just weird how all the experts on here are guys who never come off.

**marcus300** · 01-17-2012, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Whoady

Here's my question. Everyone who talks about shutting your hpta down seems to be guys who are on trt or who never come off. Doing steroids will shut you down and cause libido and erection problems regardless of whether you take proper precautions. I have read on many forums, not just this one, of guys who have problems even with proper dosaging, cycling, pct. Why doesn't anyone admit that steroids do cause damage to the hpta and that taking steroids is many times a one way route? Even if you start cycling at age 30 you will still damage your hpta. Its just weird how all the experts on here are guys who never come off.

The HPTA is far more resilient once its developed and fully matured, shutting down a system before its peaked is suicide. Many experienced user's state this through experience over the many years they have been cycling, its not something they say to hold you back on your developed, they are actually trying to help you cause yourself damage. The question you should be asking is why do teens/younger BB's think they know it all, they have zero experience and they come onto a steroid forum and ask the experts and dont follow their advice

**songdog** · 01-17-2012, 06:36 PM

Very well put Marcus!!!!!

**The Bear 79** · 01-17-2012, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Whoady

Here's my question. Everyone who talks about shutting your hpta down seems to be guys who are on trt or who never come off. Doing steroids will shut you down and cause libido and erection problems regardless of whether you take proper precautions. I have read on many forums, not just this one, of guys who have problems even with proper dosaging, cycling, pct. Why doesn't anyone admit that steroids do cause damage to the hpta and that taking steroids is many times a one way route? Even if you start cycling at age 30 you will still damage your hpta. Its just weird how all the experts on here are guys who never come off.

I'm not on TRT & I dont cycle yr round, & I think you'll find, ur rong bout the rest of the guys round here that warn youngsters of the undeveloped Endocrine / HPTA dangers. I think this is a theory u developed 2 suit ur cause.