Help Pro athlere first cycle

[tash007]

so I got BOLDEN 200 (Equipoise) + TESPRO-100 (Testosterone Propionate) + Clenbuterol + HGH

i'm a pro swimmer i practice 9 times a week in the water and 4 times a week at the gym

Hight: 6'0
weigh:173
body fat: 8%

i wanna know what's the best way to use these things also it's going to be my first cycle.


i'll be thankful for your help guys

[tlash88]

Why would you already get some of your supplies before you asked for advice on what to do for a first cycle?

[BBrian]

Do you have HGH or HCG? If it is HGH, how much do you have, or how long do you plan to take it?

[alexISthrowed]

OI know nothing about swimming, I'm guessing something like epo might suit your needs a little better that test.

[The Bear 79]

How old r u?

[tash007]

i have the GH and HCG but i'm not going to use the GH longer than 10 weeks

alexISthrowed yeah i heard of the epo i searched for it but couldn't find it

i'm 21

[DanB]

you will prob find epo difficult to find and it is very dangerous if not used correctly id stay away from it if i where you, the bear ill let you explain why he shouldnt cycle at 21, chances are that your gh is bunk aswell unless its pharm grade

[alexISthrowed]

i have the GH and HCG but i'm not going to use the GH longer than 10 weeks

alexISthrowed yeah i heard of the epo i searched for it but couldn't find it

i'm 21

I see epo all the time, I can't really see test and eq helping you too much in swimming. I don't know too much about swimming so this is purely speculation.

[Bonaparte]

What the hell is a pro swimmer? You mean Olympic level?

[The Bear 79]

i have the GH and HCG but i'm not going to use the GH longer than 10 weeks

alexISthrowed yeah i heard of the epo i searched for it but couldn't find it

i'm 21

Do u kno anything bout the Endocrine & HPTA?

[Hazard]

A couple things to mention here.....

EQ has a relatively long detection time..... so if you are going to be tested..... then it may not be a safe option for you.

Regarding your age..... there are risks involved with cycling at a young age. If you are a pro, as you state, then I can understand why you would want to take that risk. Never the less..... the risk IS there and can affect yout he same as any other 21 yr old.

~Haz~

[BigGuy90]

GH for only 10 weeks? are you recovering from an injury? What's your PCT look like?

[tash007]

What the hell is a pro swimmer? You mean Olympic level?

yep olympic

[tash007]

Do u kno anything bout the Endocrine & HPTA?

no not really

[DanB]

^ ^ ^ ^

read this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.TxYU6oFfaSo

[tash007]

A couple things to mention here.....

EQ has a relatively long detection time..... so if you are going to be tested..... then it may not be a safe option for you.

Regarding your age..... there are risks involved with cycling at a young age. If you are a pro, as you state, then I can understand why you would want to take that risk. Never the less..... the risk IS there and can affect yout he same as any other 21 yr old.

~Haz~

yeah i'm pro as i state and right now i'm off the competition for like 8 months, also yeah i get tested but 8 months is enough to get rid out of those things out of my body

thanks

[tash007]

GH for only 10 weeks? are you recovering from an injury? What's your PCT look like?

not really but i'm not concentrating on the GH, the PCT the i got is the clomid and HCG

[The Bear 79]

Do u kno anything bout the Endocrine & HPTA?

no not really

At ur age, ur Endocrine system & HPTA (hormone system) r not fully developed yet, if u cycle under the age of 25, there is significantly greater risk of doing potentially irreversible damage 2 those undeveloped systems. U could stunt ur growth, permanently suppress ur natural Testosterone production & end up with E.D. (chronic limp dik) severe depression, low or no libido......etc............By the time its all over, u could end up on TRT or HRT 4 LIFE.

[alexISthrowed]

At ur age, ur Endocrine system & HPTA (hormone system) r not fully developed yet, if u cycle under the age of 25, there is significantly greater risk of doing potentially irreversible damage 2 those undeveloped systems. U could stunt ur growth, permanently suppress ur natural Testosterone production & end up with E.D. (chronic limp dik) severe depression, low or no libido......etc............By the time its all over, u could end up on TRT or HRT 4 LIFE.

He's an olympic level athlete, this is probably the least of his concerns.

[The Bear 79]

He's an olympic level athlete, this is probably the least of his concerns.

We'll let HIM decide.

[alexISthrowed]

We'll let HIM decide.

Did I insist he take anything?

[The Bear 79]

Did I insist he take anything?

Ur post was of suggestive nature, as in suggesting there's no point in posting the harms of AAS on the undeveloped Endo / HPTA cuz he's a pro athlete & doesn't care. I say after he's been educated......let HIM decide wut the least of his concerns r.

[tash007]

At ur age, ur Endocrine system & HPTA (hormone system) r not fully developed yet, if u cycle under the age of 25, there is significantly greater risk of doing potentially irreversible damage 2 those undeveloped systems. U could stunt ur growth, permanently suppress ur natural Testosterone production & end up with E.D. (chronic limp dik) severe depression, low or no libido......etc............By the time its all over, u could end up on TRT or HRT 4 LIFE.

exactly that's why i'm asking what's the good way to start with these things that i got and how mgs per week and all those stuff, i'm not gonna go crazy to risk my body and get all these things that you have mention it

[The Bear 79]

Even low doses of AAS will shut u down.

[alexISthrowed]

Ur post was of suggestive nature, as in suggesting there's no point in posting the harms of AAS on the undeveloped Endo / HPTA cuz he's a pro athlete & doesn't care. I say after he's been educated......let HIM decide wut the least of his concerns r.

Fair enough

[BigGuy90]

HCG usually isn't for PCT. Usually ran with cycle until a few days before PCT

[tash007]

Even low doses of AAS will shut u down.

alright what do you recommend? because my friend have used the EQ and he's 24 but, he didn't get in any trouble he's completely fine

[tash007]

HCG usually isn't for PCT. Usually ran with cycle until a few days before PCT

what's ur suggestion? what's the best PCT for the things that i got?

[The Bear 79]

1st of all, Eq is useless, still suppressive, but useless. And how does he or u kno he's "completely fine"? It could take a while 2 notice something is rong, & even if something was rong, he probably wont admit it out of embarrassment. Did he c an Endocrinologist? I recommend a tweak in ur diet & training 2 achieve ur goal.

[BBrian]

alright what do you recommend? because my friend have used the EQ and he's 24 but, he didn't get in any trouble he's completely fine

All of this information, warnings and heeds are of a subjective nature. These things could happen. These things have been known to happen. That doesn't mean it's absolute. At the age of 23, I did a cycle of Sustanon 250 for ten weeks, used no pct, and recovered fine without losing most of my gains. If I had done a ridiculous stack for months on end, however, I would not have been so lucky. Interestingly, the difference between age 21 and 23, where the endocrine system is concerned, is quite different in terms of maturity, on average. In other words, at 23 I was much closer to complete maturity than you probably are at 21. At any rate, let me digress and say reiterate that a first-time user's cycle should consist only of testosterone, regardless of sport.

[gixxerboy1]

well according to whats online eq can be detected for 5 months. So if you want to risk it.
But i get good muscle pumps on test. I dont think that would be very good for a swimmer.
I honestly wouldnt know what to tell you to take or risk if you are at that level

[Hazard]

Admittedly this is not my area of expertise...... I don't know much about swimming but I would imagine you wouldn't want to get pumped very quickly. Winstrol may be of use..... it's used frequently by sprinters.

Regarding EQ's detection time...... like Gix said.... it's about 5 months although I have seen claims from places of up to a year from the end of use. IMHO..... It's not worth the risk. The last thing you want is to get caught for steroids as an olympic athlete. I can just see it now...... the games are on TV and a swimmer was busted for using EQ..... I'd hafta revive this thread

~Haz~

[tash007]

1st of all, Eq is useless, still suppressive, but useless. And how does he or u kno he's "completely fine"? It could take a while 2 notice something is rong, & even if something was rong, he probably wont admit it out of embarrassment. Did he c an Endocrinologist? I recommend a tweak in ur diet & training 2 achieve ur goal.

i don't really know but he seems fine i train with him everyday, no one can achieve the goal without the supplements

[tash007]

well according to whats online eq can be detected for 5 months. So if you want to risk it.
But i get good muscle pumps on test. I dont think that would be very good for a swimmer.
I honestly wouldnt know what to tell you to take or risk if you are at that level

I heard it stays for 3 months to get out of the body. I used the test pro for 2 months and i got good result more muscle and big rib cage
but the problem i get so sore quickly

[tash007]

Admittedly this is not my area of expertise...... I don't know much about swimming but I would imagine you wouldn't want to get pumped very quickly. Winstrol may be of use..... it's used frequently by sprinters.

Regarding EQ's detection time...... like Gix said.... it's about 5 months although I have seen claims from places of up to a year from the end of use. IMHO..... It's not worth the risk. The last thing you want is to get caught for steroids as an olympic athlete. I can just see it now...... the games are on TV and a swimmer was busted for using EQ..... I'd hafta revive this thread

~Haz~

true many athletes uses the Winstrol, However, I heard from a friend of mine that sport medicine Dr told me there's something to clean these things out of ur body it's called cleansing or something like that

[rippedfromabove]

I think hgh serves your needs the best. But you needa run it for atleast 6 months. Maybe a low trt dose of test will hwlp too like 150mg a week or so

[Hazard]

true many athletes uses the Winstrol, However, I heard from a friend of mine that sport medicine Dr told me there's something to clean these things out of ur body it's called cleansing or something like that

Just make sure you cover all your bases..... make sure that a cleanser actually works. I'd hate to see a career ruined like that.....

best of luck mate..... keep researching..... and then make a choice. The more research you do..... the better off you will be. I'm sorry I can't be of anymore help but if I come across anything that would apply to you or your situation - i'll pass it along.

~Haz~

[tash007]

I think hgh serves your needs the best. But you needa run it for atleast 6 months. Maybe a low trt dose of test will hwlp too like 150mg a week or so

thanks for the suggestion

[tash007]

Just make sure you cover all your bases..... make sure that a cleanser actually works. I'd hate to see a career ruined like that.....

best of luck mate..... keep researching..... and then make a choice. The more research you do..... the better off you will be. I'm sorry I can't be of anymore help but if I come across anything that would apply to you or your situation - i'll pass it along.

~Haz~

appreciate your help buddy

[ThePeter]

you realize someone could just look at a list of olympic swimmers that are 21, 6', 173 pounds (pounds generally narrows it down to the US), and train with a fellow 24 year old olympic swimmer. It would make it pretty easy to narrow down a group of people to test.