Short cycle

**pepous** · 01-17-2012, 10:55 AM

Hello,

I have at home some steroids which I want to use. From the past saved.

It is:

test propionat
test enanthat
masteron
90*10 mg dbol tablets
clomid
about 20-30 *10 mg tablets of tamoxifen
arimidex

I would like to make a bulking cycle of these compounds. It should be only 4 week cycle ( I like short cycles with easier PCT ) I have no much coumpounds for PCT so I dont wanna to have long cycle.

My suggestion is to run this:
1. week 750 mg of enanthate + 30 mg of dbol/ day
2. week 500 mg of enanthate +30 mg of dbol/day
3. week propionate 400 mg +30 mg dbol/day
4. week propionate 400 mg +30 mg dbol/day
5. nothing
6. 50 mg of clomid / day and 20 mg of tamox
7. 50 mg of clomid / day and 20 mg of tamox

How much of arimidex should i add to this cycle? 0,5 mg / EOD for the firt 4 weeks? Also should I use masteron with that? What do you think about this short cycle? Any suggestions?

Source: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.TxWk5qWFjW0

**marcus300** · 01-17-2012, 11:06 AM

What are your stats?
Previous cycles and results?
How long have you been training?

**pepous** · 01-17-2012, 11:26 AM

Previsious cycle ( more than 2 years back ) I used max 500 mg / week. Never did stronger compound than Dbol .

I am 180 cm and 86 kg ( BF% is about 15% - i know not good )
I am training many years.

I am also interested how prime should look like?

**jasc** · 01-17-2012, 11:41 AM

Not a very good cycle..

Test E usually takes 4-5 wks to fully kick in and should be run 10-12 wks

Prop only would be a better option as it takes 1-2 wks

**pepous** · 01-17-2012, 11:43 AM

"Compounds- Because its a short period of time the normal way would to run short ester's, but you can use long ester's within a short cycle , i know what some of you are thinking but it can be done with great results, because of the androgen overload your simply frontloading long ester's to an amount were it is effective straight from the start, the only problem is you have to drop them out 14 days before the end and swap them with fast ester's so everything is clear for PCT , i know what some are saying sounds pointless but its not, to the BB's who prefer long ester and they respond better to them, remember its designed of your cycle history so if your better with long esters go with them until 14 days from the end and swap to fast ester's, the daily injection and the amount of tissue the body can produce in a short period is amazing, if anyone wants to discuss long ester's with this theory i will but at this moment in time i will stop before i complicate things more. Short ester's and fast acting compounds are used and the exact compounds depends on what your trying to achieve but normally its Test based or what you respond best to, 2 /3 compounds are ran at a time but no need to run loads, keep them limited less is better,Ive even known guys used 1 compound with stunning results. HGH is increased to a high amount when cycle starts just like all the compounds. I did a study once with some BB's and the dosages range alot with all different HGH protocol's which is interesting reading but i can go into that at a later date."

By Marcus.

I dont know why it kick-in so late. But testosteron is in blood after 2 days. Depend on first dosage I think. You have to do first dose very high to feel it sonn.

**ecruz** · 01-17-2012, 11:44 AM

age? short and a long ester test (could see some sence but 4wks??)) show full stats then we will give some advice

**JP-MAN** · 01-17-2012, 12:08 PM

i will not speak on behalf of marcus as i do not know him but i would assume his advice was for experienced users.
you have said u ran one other cycle, with no higher than 500 mg, but said strongest compound was d-bol.
so im confused on what u ran in pastr, and why u have extra of stuff u never used....

either case, i dont think u are ready, i think u need to study these chemicals more as they are going to be going into ur body.

***D7M*** · 01-17-2012, 12:10 PM

Pepous, aren't you like 21 and being talking and thinking about cruising/TRT/abusing steroids for like 2 years now?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.TxW1Um9SScQ
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.TxW5cW9SScQ

**BBrian** · 01-17-2012, 02:15 PM

I don't quite understand how you came to the determination that a four week bulking cycle would be very beneficial, especially with ENANTHATE , but you should instead be spreading out the prop and ditch the enanthate. More logically, though, you should forget the unconventional four week approach and do things the right way, spanning 10-14 weeks at a time so that you'll actually achieve some desirable gains and then, if you're smart enough to learn about a proper diet that will maintain said gains, exemplify the discipline required to keep them.

"I dont know why it kick-in so late. But testosteron is in blood after 2 days."
This tells me that you have no real comprehension of how esters work my young friend. The ester regulates how long it takes the testosterone to be absorbed into your bloodstream, so if you inject enanthate and believe that the test will be in your blood in two days, you have another thing coming.

**pepous** · 01-17-2012, 02:22 PM

Have you ever tested your blood work after 750 mg of enanthate or you have just this theory based on nothing?!

**BBrian** · 01-17-2012, 02:44 PM

http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/ester.htm
http://www.steroid.com/Testosterone-Enanthate.php
http://www.anabolicsteroids-hormonek...ne_esters.html

This is the last time I'm going to respond to you, as you're obviously too foolish to consider anything aside from preconceived notions based on an utter lack of education. I hope you take the time to read and study the information above.

**TRT2010** · 01-17-2012, 02:50 PM

I just spent the better half of an hour reading in detail all the post that has once again led up to this and you keep coming back for more. Why are you doing this to yourself? You really do need to get checked over by a reputable mental health pro man, and like right away. Your cycle is one of the most laughable i have ever came across. I am surprised these guys are being as nice to you after all the time and heart filled advice they have given you. Just stop already man. I dont get why you are so hell bent on doing this. Not just that, but knowing the kind of responces you are going to get. " kudos to the rest of the memeber for giving out advise that make people wanna come back" Now back to what I was saying. You already know with or without our blessing you are gonna do it anyways and im sure this is not the only forum you ask these questions on. Now imma stop flamming and get to some serious points. Bro you really need to get checked out. This goes deeper than only wanting to be on test to feel like a man. It goes deeper than you thinking you got the short end of the puberty straw when it came to genetics. What it boils down to is that you DO have a quite serious inbalance for sure, but its the chemicals in your brain man. You really need to be on AD. The reaosn why DR gave them to you is cause the fealt something when you saw them that raised red flags and they were looking out for your well being. You need long term pro help. People dont just feel the way you do and act the way you do for the reasons you say. Your gonna end up doing some serious harm. And im not talking about you Endo system but your gonna end up being so damn depressed that your gonna try and off yourself one of these days. All because you think u need to be on testosterone . Your also prob gonna put a even worse stigma on steroids as a whole. They are gonna find you either seriously hurt via self infliction or being dead. Search your room and find rigs, empty or full vials or steroids and point that " this would never have happened if he wasnt on steroids" Just food for thought man. best of luck.