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    Sleep & natural herbs

    Would like to know what you guys use for getting better sleep. If I am on gear - the last thing I want is to get sleep ;-)

    Tried Melatonine 15mg. Did not much

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    15mg??!!
    3mg is a high dosed tab, and you only need a fraction of that.

    What does your cycle consist of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte
    15mg??!!
    3mg is a high dosed tab, and you only need a fraction of that.

    What does your cycle consist of?
    Nandrolone 300mg/week (finished after 2month)
    Testo-Gel 25mg/day (finished after 2month)
    HCG (now)
    Tamoxifen (now)

    Can't sleep very well. Any good supplements?

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    you looking for something natural or like a drug? I know some nyquil will knock you out. Or advil PM but I feel like crap in the morning after taking those. It's better to take something that calms you down. Drink some caffiene free tea or something.

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    I recently read a journal concluding that taking aspirin at night (but not in the morning, of particular interest) lowered blood pressure. I assume that BP is the root of your rest problems, seeing as you have recently been on a cycle.

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    Sleeping like shit during PCT is pretty normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBrian
    I recently read a journal concluding that taking aspirin at night (but not in the morning, of particular interest) lowered blood pressure. I assume that BP is the root of your rest problems, seeing as you have recently been on a cycle.
    Good idea. But I prefer Bromelain against thickening of blood. It lowers bp too.

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    5-htp works the best for me personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexISthrowed
    5-htp works the best for me personally.
    Which dose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optima25 View Post
    Which dose?
    100mg 30mins before bed.

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    Might look into ZMA. I've taken that, not during PCT, and it knocked me out. But Melatonin knocks me out too.

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    5htp and somatomax you can buy it from any online supplement store the stuff is amazing you will thank me later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    5htp and somatomax you can buy it from any online supplement store the stuff is amazing you will thank me later.
    Do you get cotton mouth with 5-htp? That's my only complaint, it drys my mouth out so bad.

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    I actually take 5 htp 100mg several times a day with gaba i have been doing it for 7-8 months havent really noticed it. I love the stuff in my opinion everyone should be taking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    I actually take 5 htp 100mg several times a day with gaba i have been doing it for 7-8 months havent really noticed it. I love the stuff in my opinion everyone should be taking it.
    I recently started tren for the first time and started taking the 5-htp 3x ed. I can definitely notice the difference when I forget to take it. I recommend the stuff to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optima25 View Post
    Would like to know what you guys use for getting better sleep. If I am on gear - the last thing I want is to get sleep ;-)

    Tried Melatonine 15mg. Did not much
    Try some ZMA before bed,,,with 3mg of Melatonin

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexISthrowed

    I recently started tren for the first time and started taking the 5-htp 3x ed. I can definitely notice the difference when I forget to take it. I recommend the stuff to everyone.
    I had 5-htp. I took 200mg or more before bed. That shit did not help. Fu... :-(

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    Tried quite a few...settled on benedryl. Least sides for me.

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    Gaba about an hour before bed and then 3mgs of melatonin at bedtime
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    not sure why melatonin affects me so bad...wish i could take it...some ppl swear by it


    Quote Originally Posted by SlimmerMe View Post
    Gaba about an hour before bed and then 3mgs of melatonin at bedtime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optima25 View Post
    I had 5-htp. I took 200mg or more before bed. That shit did not help. Fu... :-(
    In that case I suggest a hammer.

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    It would work but I think it has the most sides lol

    Quote Originally Posted by alexISthrowed View Post
    In that case I suggest a hammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimmerMe
    Gaba about an hour before bed and then 3mgs of melatonin at bedtime
    How much gaba?

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    I always recommend GABA (Gabba Aminobutyric Acid) 1/4 teaspoon powder dissolved in juice and 3mg of Melatonin.
    Gets your brain to stop running 90 miles an hour and naturally releases HGH.
    You will get restfull sleep and no groggy dragging the next morning.
    Also drink plenty of water, if you aren't already!

    SLEEP IS SO IMPORTANT IN NOT JUST YOUR TRAINING BUT IN GENERAL HEALTH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optima25 View Post
    Nandrolone 300mg/week (finished after 2month)
    Testo-Gel 25mg/day (finished after 2month)
    HCG (now)
    Tamoxifen (now)

    Can't sleep very well. Any good supplements?
    that's a lopsided cycle.

    Melatonin doesn't work for everybody..... regardless the dose.

    LIke Slimmer mentioned, GABA also works for some. Benefit of GABA is that it is also a secretauge

    then there is camomile tea

    here is something i ripped off from some one else:

    To relieve insomnia, you should avoid substances that make it worse and have good bedtime habits that make it easier to fall asleep and stay asleep. Make sure your bedroom is a comfortable temperature, dark, and quiet enough for sleep.

    Good bedtime habits include:

    - Prepare yourself for sleep by, e.g. preparing a 'to do' list for tomorrow, so that such distractions are at their minimum when you actually hit the bed.

    - Turn your alarm clock so that its glow doesn't let you know of the time ticking away.

    - Not exercising, eating heavy meals, or drinking a lot shortly before bedtime. One exception is yoga. A number of yoga postures are designed to calm your body and prepare you for sleep.

    - Following a routine that helps you wind down and relax before bed, such as reading a book, listening to soothing music, or taking a hot bath.

    - If you share a bed, buy a king size bed with two different mattresses so that you two don't disturb each other while sleeping.

    - Making your bedroom sleep-friendly. Avoid bright lighting and minimize possible sleep distractions, such as a TV, computer, or pet.

    - Going to sleep around the same time each night and waking up around the same time each morning, even on weekends. If possible, avoid night shifts or alternating schedules at work and other causes of irregular sleep schedules.

    Both herbal and homeopathic remedies are commonly used alternatives to sleeping tablets in reducing insomnia, and can be very effective in helping to assist an individual in the transition to peaceful slumber without strong sedatives or any concerning side effects.

    Certain herbs such as Hypericum perforatum, Scuttelaria laterifolia, Passiflora incarnata can be used to maintain healthy sleep patterns and promote optimal balance of sleep-related hormones involved in the sleep cycle.

    Homeopathic remedies such as Coffea C30 and Nux Vom. C30 are also used to reduce insomnia and maintain restful, satisfying, and healthy sleep. Other natural supplements that are widely used to address the underlying causes of chronic insomnia are calcium lactate, magnesium lactate and vitamin B6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearGirl View Post
    I always recommend GABA (Gabba Aminobutyric Acid) 1/4 teaspoon powder dissolved in juice and 3mg of Melatonin.
    Gets your brain to stop running 90 miles an hour and naturally releases HGH.
    You will get restfull sleep and no groggy dragging the next morning.
    Also drink plenty of water, if you aren't already!

    SLEEP IS SO IMPORTANT IN NOT JUST YOUR TRAINING BUT IN GENERAL HEALTH.
    Great advice here.

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