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    My proposed short cycle

    First off stats;

    Age 24
    Weight 182
    Height 5'11
    BF% 10-12

    Cycle History - 1 cycle

    400 mg test cypionate Ew for 10 weeks.
    .25mg arimidex eod until PCT
    PCT starting 18 days after last injection consisting of
    nolva 40/20/20/20
    clomid 70/35/35/35

    Goals- gian 8-10 lbs of lean muscle

    I was planning on running a second cycle of test cyp and dbol but I'm thinking of switching to a short cycle to minimize sides and I have heard it is easier to keep gains by doing this.

    This is my proposed second cycle;

    Test Prop; 100mg eod week 1-6
    Anavar 40mg ed week 1-6
    liquidex .5 eod form beggining till end of PCT
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    clomid 70/35/35/35

    I think I am going to not use HCG as this will be a short cycle and I have read HCG is best for longer ones.
    I am planning on running the PCT same as my first cycle as this worked well. Would this work well or should I change it? I also upped the intake of liquidex due to the increase in compounds (ie I added anavar)

    If anyone could critique this in any way it would be much appreciated, thanks all.

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    24 is right on the cusp of being just about old enough. It actually dsnt look all that bad. You should deff get your 8-10 lbs on this. I would recommend doing the hcg if you can get it.. Why not right

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    The only reason I was leaning away from HCG was because I read it can increase the chances of getting gyno, and make gyno worse if you do get it. So i figured since its a shorter cycle I would just avoid it all together.

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    i mnot entirley sure delayed gyno actaully happens. I know there have been many a people who says it does but if u run your AI through PCT it should be okay. Wait till someone else chimes in

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotts View Post
    First off stats;

    Age 24
    Weight 182
    Height 5'11
    BF% 10-12

    Cycle History - 1 cycle

    400 mg test cypionate Ew for 10 weeks. Test Cyp is a long ester. Test Cyp cycle should be 14 weeks to 16 weeks
    .25mg arimidex eod until PCT Unless you're prone to gyno, you don't really need adex.
    PCT starting 18 days after last injection consisting of Again, Test Cyp's a long ester you need to wait at least 21 days.
    nolva 40/20/20/20 Wait 21 days before you start PCT.
    clomid 70/35/35/35 I'd run 100/50/50/50

    Goals- gian 8-10 lbs of lean muscle

    I was planning on running a second cycle of test cyp and dbol but I'm thinking of switching to a short cycle to minimize sides and I have heard it is easier to keep gains by doing this.

    This is my proposed second cycle;

    Test Prop; 100mg eod week 1-6 If you run 100mg Prop every other day that's only 350mg/wk. If you run 150mg every other day it's 525mg. I'd recommend 150mg every other day.
    Anavar 40mg ed week 1-6
    liquidex .5 eod form beggining till end of PCT
    Nolva 40/20/20/20 Wait 3 days before you start PCT.
    clomid 70/35/35/35 Run 100/50/50/50

    I think I am going to not use HCG as this will be a short cycle and I have read HCG is best for longer ones.
    I am planning on running the PCT same as my first cycle as this worked well. Would this work well or should I change it? I also upped the intake of liquidex due to the increase in compounds (ie I added anavar)

    If anyone could critique this in any way it would be much appreciated, thanks all.
    For a short cycle Test Prop's the best. All the other esters are too long for a 6 week cycle.

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    A few points:

    -No need to up the ldex on the second cycle, anavar doesn't aromatize..

    -No need for ldex during PCT, using ldex will drop estrogen levels too low. Also the excess test will no longer be present so very little aromatization takes place. no need to control something that isn't present.

    -Hcg would be beneficial to recovery, even on short cycles. A few shots of prop will shut you down reguardless of legnth; Granted this will not be as hard on the hpta as a long cycle.
    I wouldn't say it's crucial, but it can only help.

    -Hcg should be taken during cycle not during pct. So hcg will not cause gyno during pct.

    After making the corrections Scotch said, everything looks go to go.
    The only advice I am not supportive of is the "no need for ldex if not gyno prone". Swifto just wrote up a great thread on why an ai should be used every cycle. Give it a read.. he's always got great advice backed by research.
    Last edited by jasc; 01-18-2012 at 02:28 PM.

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