TEST P questions

**Nick Dedication** · 01-18-2012, 09:39 PM

Im thinking about using test P and test E in my next cycle. Ive never used Test Prop before and I have a couple questions: When should I start feeling the side effects? I was thinking about switching to test E after a few weeks of test P. can someone reccomend a dosing schedule. I want to dose the test e at 250 a week. Should I just switch from test P to test E after a few weeks or should I take the test E in the beginning along with the test P. I appreciate any info

**gixxerboy1** · 01-18-2012, 09:41 PM

what are your stats?

**Nick Dedication** · 01-18-2012, 09:57 PM

5'3
170
31
2nd cycle
sorry, I didnt think my stats would effect the answer. When should someone start feeling test p after the first pin? and what is an equivalent dose of test P if i want to switch to test E (250/week)....and should i take test e from the cycles beginning or just switch the P to E after a few weeks? thanks

**xelnaga** · 01-18-2012, 10:08 PM

If you goal is to use test prop as a kick start you would run it concurrently with your test E. Switching from a short ester to a long ester is not advised because it will create inconsistent blood levels. Most people feel test p within 5-7 days.

**The Bear 79** · 01-18-2012, 10:10 PM

Dude...I'm calling BS, in this thread http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=#post5857095 u sed u were 6'-4" / 170 lbs. & Marcus told u ur diet was insufficient based on those stats, u replied by admitting ur diet was insufficient, but never once proclaiming a "typo" in ur height in tha post nor thruout the rest of the thread. U even admited in ur reply 2 Marcus's post, that u hav always been skinny / thin. Then all of a sudden u feel it necessary 2 edit ur post just a few minutes ago, b4 replying 2 Gixx's question. And on top of it all, u cant remember wut lie u just created a few moments b4, ur edit sez ur 5'-4" & ur post here sez 5'-3". U edited ur post & lied in this thread cuz u knew every1 would say "ur diet is insufficient" if u told the truth.

**OnTheSauce** · 01-18-2012, 10:13 PM

250 a week of test e is pretty low. Most people run at least 500mg/week

**Nick Dedication** · 01-18-2012, 10:14 PM

Thanks xelnaga, just the info i was looking for. Kick starting the cycle is exactly what i want to do. What dose should I take? my goal is to take 250/week of test E. How much P should I take to kick start the cycle and should I take a lower dosage of E while on the P? I def want to try and keep my blood levels as consistent as possible.

**DanB** · 01-18-2012, 10:15 PM

could the bear actually be dec11 recinarated or if not then possibly his protege lol

**gixxerboy1** · 01-18-2012, 10:15 PM

you should not take anything and work on your diet like you were told in the other thread

**xelnaga** · 01-18-2012, 10:17 PM

You want to run test E at a consistent dose throughout. No need to make allowances for the prop. When running prop as a kickstart I use 50mgs ED. However, If your needle adverse you can run 100mg eod.

**The Bear 79** · 01-18-2012, 10:18 PM

U need 2 fix ur diet & put a natural foundation on b4 considering a cycle. And u need 2 stop lieing bout ur stats 2 get the advice u want.

**xelnaga** · 01-18-2012, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

Dude...I'm calling BS, in this thread http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=#post5857095 u sed u were 6'-4" / 170 lbs. & Marcus told u ur diet was insufficient based on those stats, u replied by admitting ur diet was insufficient, but never once proclaiming a "typo" in ur height in tha post nor thruout the rest of the thread. U even admited in ur reply 2 Marcus's post, that u hav always been skinny / thin. Then all of a sudden u feel it necessary 2 edit ur post just a few minutes ago, b4 replying 2 Gixx's question. And on top of it all, u cant remember wut lie u just created a few moments b4, ur edit sez ur 5'-4" & ur post here sez 5'-3". U edited ur post & lied in this thread cuz u knew every1 would say "ur diet is insufficient" if u told the truth.

There's that 6th sense I referred to.

**Nick Dedication** · 01-18-2012, 10:22 PM

good for you inspector bear! you uncovered my dirty little secret. Unfortunately, it seems like some people cant give you a straight answer if your stats aren't "acceptable". yes, im thin, and yes i need to eat more....this does not change the fact that i have a few simple questions that I would like to get some info on. For example, why does someone need to know your stats if all you want to know is when test P kicks in. its a pretty simple question but for some reason, certain people feel it necessary to know your stats before answering.

**xelnaga** · 01-18-2012, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Nick Dedication

good for you inspector bear! you uncovered my dirty little secret. Unfortunately, it seems like some people cant give you a straight answer if your stats aren't "acceptable". yes, im thin, and yes i need to eat more....this does not change the fact that i have a few simple questions that I would like to get some info on. For example, why does someone need to know your stats if all you want to know is when test P kicks in. its a pretty simple question but for some reason, certain people feel it necessary to know your stats before answering.

You may catch flak, but lying about your stats is a quick way to lose respect.

**The Bear 79** · 01-18-2012, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Nick Dedication

good for you inspector bear! you uncovered my dirty little secret. Unfortunately, it seems like some people cant give you a straight answer if your stats aren't "acceptable". yes, im thin, and yes i need to eat more....this does not change the fact that i have a few simple questions that I would like to get some info on. For example, why does someone need to know your stats if all you want to know is when test P kicks in. its a pretty simple question but for some reason, certain people feel it necessary to know your stats before answering.

U stated u were thinking bout using Test. P., in other words, ur considering, running a cycle, round here we dont giv cycle advice without stats. That way we dont unintentionally giv advice 2 some1 underage, underweight, or overweight.

**OnTheSauce** · 01-18-2012, 10:27 PM

People don't want to give advice to you because without a proper diet, taking a cycle will be pointless.

**gixxerboy1** · 01-18-2012, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Nick Dedication

good for you inspector bear! you uncovered my dirty little secret. Unfortunately, it seems like some people cant give you a straight answer if your stats aren't "acceptable". yes, im thin, and yes i need to eat more....this does not change the fact that i have a few simple questions that I would like to get some info on. For example, why does someone need to know your stats if all you want to know is when test P kicks in. its a pretty simple question but for some reason, certain people feel it necessary to know your stats before answering.

why not do a simple search or read about the chemicals you are injecting before asking a basic question.
Maybe people want to know your stats because we dont feel comfortable giving advice to people to inject illegal drugs to people who should be taking them

Nick i tell you whats exactly going to happen. Your not going to fix your diet. Your going to start the cycle and in about a few weeks you will gain a few lbs. You are going to think your the man. And what idiots on that board told you to wait. Your cycle will come and go. And since you never fixed your diet. You will have gained alot less on yuor cycle then you could have. And again since your diet is crap you will start to loose the little you gained. You natural levels will be in the crapper. You will get depressed about losing your gains. You will end up being lighter then 170lbs and lighter in the wallet cause you wasted $$ on your test.

**The Bear 79** · 01-18-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

why not do a simple search or read about the chemicals you are injecting before asking a basic question.
Maybe people want to know your stats because we dont feel comfortable giving advice to people to inject illegal drugs to people who should be taking them

Nick i tell you whats exactly going to happen. Your not going to fix your diet. Your going to start the cycle and in about a few weeks you will gain a few lbs. You are going to think your the man. And what idiots on that board told you to wait. Your cycle will come and go. And since you never fixed your diet. You will have gained alot less on yuor cycle then you could have. And again since your diet is crap you will start to loose the little you gained. You natural levels will be in the crapper. You will get depressed about losing your gains. You will end up being lighter then 170lbs and lighter in the wallet cause you wasted $$ on your test.

Bullseye.......

**BBrian** · 01-18-2012, 10:58 PM

Nick, I know that the argumentative nature of this thread must be fairly frustrating, but the scenario that gixxerboy just pointed out isn't just valid because it's logical, it's valid because we have seen this exact scenario come into play countless times for people who do not take the good advice that people like he and Bear offer you (and perhaps they have even experienced this sort of thing firsthand early on). Are they the ones losing money? Of course not. They offer these hard facts because beneath the cynicism, they genuinely care about the well-being of others. What you need to do is fairly simple, but requires a lot of discipline - you need to research what a bodybuilder's diet looks like and apply it to yourself every single day. You have to consume six to eight meals a day that consist of the richest sources of quality protein, carbohydrates, calories and fat. And the best part is that these exact meals are displayed in full detail all over this site.

Wake up and eat 3/4 cup of oatmeal with non-fat yogurt, granola and blueberries. Combine that with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter and 7 walnuts, and drink a glass of milk combined with a scoop of whey protein. Two and a half hours later, eat 5 ounces of chicken breast, 3/4 cup of brown rice, 1 cup of broccoli, and a handful of pistachios. Repeat this with similar meals four more times throughout the day, and repeat all of this the other six days of the week. Does this much food cost a lot? Hell yes it does. Does it require a lot of discipline to perform this feat every day that you want to begin your transformation into a bodybuilder? Hell yes it does. But when you get this and an awesome work-out routine established as your lifestyle, you will be ready not only for the next step, which are anabolic steroids , but you will also be ready to gain and maintain the type of physique that you are looking for.