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    first size cycle .. any input appreciated

    Hey i started my t400 cycle a week ago n jus got some dbol soo here we go... im 6'' 205 maybe 10 % bf been working out as long as i can remember...

    1-12 - t 400 (200 mg x 2 /week)
    2-6 dbol 25 mg ed
    1-12 - armixdex (.5 mg eod)
    4-14 - hcg (250 iu e3d [500 iu/week])
    2- 12 proviron (50 mg ed)

    PCT
    nolva- 40/40/20/20
    clomid - 100/50/50/25

    is this PCT good enough or should something be added?

    i also have some proviron which im not sure if i should take during cycle 50 mg ed?? or for PCT... any suggestions??

    i will be trying to eat 300 g protien and 400-500 g carbs a day... and working out in demolition and hitting the gym everyday..
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    Well your profile says 21 so the members here won't give you the advice of using AAS, as it could potentially damage your endo and hpta

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    OP, u should stop wut ur doing & run ur PCT. Ur taking a pretty big risk of permanently damaging ur Endocrine & Hormone systems. Wait til ur 25. Heres mor info on the subject: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...9#.TxidC4EsZX0
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    I hope you take their advice. Trust me, 25 is not as far away as you may think.

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    hey well im pretty set on doing this... aside from my age is there anything that you can suggest to make this cycle better and increase my chances of having a symptom free cycle? any information would be greatly appericated.. i have aleeady started it soo theirs no point in telling me not to do it.. i dont mean to be disrespectful but i have made my discussion already.

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    How many cycles have you done before mate???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    How many cycles have you done before mate???
    this is the first 1 ive has the aas's in my house for almost a year but jus been doin research

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    Quote Originally Posted by inmate- View Post
    hey well im pretty set on doing this... aside from my age is there anything that you can suggest to make this cycle better and increase my chances of having a symptom free cycle? any information would be greatly appericated.. i have already started it soo theirs no point in telling me not to do it.. i dont mean to be disrespectful but i have made my discussion already.
    There's no such thing as a "symptom free cycle". And just cuz u already started, doesn't mean u cant stop, so don't tell me "there's no point in telling me not 2 do it". U just don't want 2 stop that's all. Good luck 2 u. I truly & sincerely hope u don't end up a statistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    There's no such thing as a "symptom free cycle". And just cuz u already started, doesn't mean u cant stop, so don't tell me "there's no point in telling me not 2 do it". U just don't want 2 stop that's all. Good luck 2 u. I truly & sincerely hope u don't end up a statistic.
    i know thats why im saying increase my chances of having a ...symptom free cycle.. and yes i know thats why i said im set on doing this... thank you and i assume the cycle i have made is pretty solid since theres no negative feedback? and im turning 22 next month im not that young the average person is done developing by 21 ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by inmate- View Post
    i know thats why im saying increase my chances of having a ...symptom free cycle.. and yes i know thats why i said im set on doing this... thank you and i assume the cycle i have made is pretty solid since theres no negative feedback? and im turning 22 next month im not that young the average person is done developing by 21 ..
    Again, ther is no such thing as a symptom free cycle..........how can u increase ur chances of having something that doesn't exist..........??? Most people r done GROWING by the age of 21 but not done developing. Ur systems r still not fully developed b4 the age of 25 or so & there's still good chance of damaging them. Just cuz ur done growing, doesn't mean ur done developing....... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...9#.TxnhjoEsZX0
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    so the cycle looks good? nothing done wrong or doesnt need any improvements? thanks for all the input guys

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    I would drop the proviron this time round mate...

    But besides that all looks good, maybe start a log in the correct forum so we can watch your progress..
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    hey so i recently talked to some friends and they said that 400 was rather low per week im thinking bout bumping it up to .75 ml 2x a week or 1 ml x2 week (600 or 800 mg weekly) what do you guys think of this is this excessive? would i be more prone to gyno or other effects? and should i increase my arimedex or keep it at .5 eod?

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    anyone wanna give some input? my shots coming up tonight and i think im gonna try doing .75 ml tonite so bumpin it up the t400 to 600 mg a week

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    400mg is plenty for your first cycle, I would not go any higher especially considering your already into the cycle. The hormone fluctuations can be a pain to deal with.
    Keep it at 400mg, you will grow fine.

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    the hormone fluctuations from 400 - 600 weekly right, what could happen in these situations is it literally just pain or are their sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inmate-
    the hormone fluctuations from 400 - 600 weekly right, what could happen in these situations is it literally just pain or are their sides?
    You've been researching for a year and these kinds of questions come out of you?

    At 400mg/week you have doubled your natural test levels. As a first cycle at 21, a bad and stubborn decision, dont push it kiddo. Get bloodwork 4-6 weeks after end of PCT to see if you actually recovered or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    You've been researching for a year and these kinds of questions come out of you?
    Well in his defense, he didn't say he was actually researching AAS. He could've been researching global warming or something...................

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79
    Well in his defense, he didn't say he was actually researching AAS. He could've been researching global warming or something...................
    Hahaha you're always there for the underdog

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    400 is more then plenty. My first cycle was 250mg a week. More isnt always better
    i would drop the proviron and d-bol. You dont need it. And you are already too young and you are worried about sides as you stated so more products and higher doses = more sides
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    You've been researching for a year and these kinds of questions come out of you?

    At 400mg/week you have doubled your natural test levels. As a first cycle at 21, a bad and stubborn decision, dont push it kiddo. Get bloodwork 4-6 weeks after end of PCT to see if you actually recovered or not.
    Yes ive been researching this for over a year and i dont understand what the difference is if i change it from 400 - 600 if im taking adex .5 eod it should hold the sides down... along with the provrion (i know both are not neccessary but i dont see the harm in taking them just throwing $$ away basically) i have nolva on hand incase anything pops up.. soo could you please explain to me what some complications would be from upping the test ?? aside from obviously having more test in your system...

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    Sorry man, you know my stand point on advising people who are likely to do damage to their undeveloped endocrine system.

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