Use Provion after cycle

[Andy Hui]

Hello all guys,
I would like to confirm Provion can use for PCT after take D-Bol and Danbolic?
Thanks

[alexISthrowed]

Using proviron for pct would be ass backwards. I would not start that cycle in the first place. What are you stats?

[tomt45]

He's 5'7 130 with 10% bf. He had a post yesterday about doing dbol and adrol together. Andy I am not saying this to be rude but I really encourage you to take the advice that these guys gave you yesterday. Figure out how to eat and get on a good routine. You will accomplish nothing from this cycle.

[bjpennnn]

I have read people saying that yes it will work and people that said no it will keep ya shutown. I would not run it during pct or after. Save it for your next cycle man.

[tomt45]

Alex have you read the profile on proviron on this website? I know very little about it besides what I have read. Never used it so I have no experience with it. But it says it can be used for pct and does not suppress natural testosterone at all. I am not posting this to try to prove you wrong or something. I just want your opinion cause I actually considered incorporating it in my next pct. This is from the proviron profile on this website...

Now, as if all of this werent enough, lets talk about how Proviron affects your HPTA (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular-Axis)& the thing that regulates the male hormonal system. When a reasonable dose of this stuff is given (100-150mgs/day), it had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels (6). Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Leutenizing Hormone (LH) are two hormones which send a signal to your testes to produce testosterone. Good news for people considering it for PCT is that it can even raise your LH (10)! Thus, by not suppressing those hormones and maybe even raising some, your normal testosterone levels will remain intact. This points to a novel use for this compound during Post-Cycyle-Therapy for a non-suppressive "bridge" between cycles. In fact, in yet another study, administration of Proviron (basically the same dose as in the last study) produced no changes in steroids , thyroid hormones, gonadotropins nor PRL (Prolactin Levels& you want those to remain low). (8).



Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Proviron.php#ixzz1k1esRiby

[alexISthrowed]

Alex have you read the profile on proviron on this website? I know very little about it besides what I have read. Never used it so I have no experience with it. But it says it can be used for pct and does not suppress natural testosterone at all. I am not posting this to try to prove you wrong or something. I just want your opinion cause I actually considered incorporating it in my next pct. This is from the proviron profile on this website...

Now, as if all of this werent enough, lets talk about how Proviron affects your HPTA (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular-Axis)& the thing that regulates the male hormonal system. When a reasonable dose of this stuff is given (100-150mgs/day), it had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels (6). Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Leutenizing Hormone (LH) are two hormones which send a signal to your testes to produce testosterone. Good news for people considering it for PCT is that it can even raise your LH (10)! Thus, by not suppressing those hormones and maybe even raising some, your normal testosterone levels will remain intact. This points to a novel use for this compound during Post-Cycyle-Therapy for a non-suppressive "bridge" between cycles. In fact, in yet another study, administration of Proviron (basically the same dose as in the last study) produced no changes in steroids , thyroid hormones, gonadotropins nor PRL (Prolactin Levels& you want those to remain low). (8).



Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Proviron.php#ixzz1k1esRiby

I have read this, remember these profiles are pretty outdated. I've read the studies and I still don't see the point in taking anything hormonal during pct.

"Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy."

Here is one particular study from pubmed. This leads me to believe that proviron is very mildly suppressive. Why take the chance during pct?

[tomt45]

I hear ya. I will stick to hcg , clomid and nolva. Thanks

[TED66]

I hear ya. I will stick to hcg, clomid and nolva. Thanks

no HCG in pct

[tomt45]

I just said I will stick with hcg , clomid and nolva for pct. So yes I will be using hcg for pct. Just not proviron ....

[ucf465]

I just said I will stick with hcg, clomid and nolva for pct. So yes I will be using hcg for pct. Just not proviron....

what he's saying is DONT use hcg in pct, this is because it can cause an estrogen rebound

[alexISthrowed]

Hcg can be suppressive as well, best run on cycle.

[Andy Hui]

Thanks all guys,
I know Clomid and HGC cam use for PCT, but the drugs shop salesman tell me Provion have same function. So I have this question.

[tomt45]

Pretty sure alex answered that question. No you shouldnt use proviron for pct. But more importantly you should not do this cycle at all.

[Andy Hui]

He's 5'7 130 with 10% bf. He had a post yesterday about doing dbol and adrol together. Andy I am not saying this to be rude but I really encourage you to take the advice that these guys gave you yesterday. Figure out how to eat and get on a good routine. You will accomplish nothing from this cycle.

Thank you for your concern, I will intake some proten and carbo.

[BBrian]

Andy, buddy, did you not get anything from your first thread? Don't take d-bol and andriol at the same time. Most preferably, don't take any steroids until you become far more educated about them. It sounds to me like with the help of your source, you are about to hurt your body and gain nothing in the way of quality muscle mass.

[Andy Hui]

Andy, buddy, did you not get anything from your first thread? Don't take d-bol and andriol at the same time. Most preferably, don't take any steroids until you become far more educated about them. It sounds to me like with the help of your source, you are about to hurt your body and gain nothing in the way of quality muscle mass.

Thanks Brain

[Ashop]

Hello all guys,
I would like to confirm Provion can use for PCT after take D-Bol and Danbolic?
Thanks

NO...definitely not!!! PROVIRON is a AAS and would be counter productive during PCT.