IS in a bit of trouble poosibly.?

[Marcus W]

OK so im on my first day of 500mg of sust and like 50mg deca for my 8-10 week cycle. Ive been reading more which i should of done along time ago and now im scared of getting testicular shutdown! the problem is my only PCT is nolvadex yea ik ik its only good for gyno not for testicular shutdown. hopefully i can order something i can take during my cycle so my testes dont shrink need help! mayb pill form? but if not what else ??

[BG]

Ar-r

[Marcus W]

and what do i need to buy, so i can take it during my cycle

[dooie]

and what do i need to buy, so i can take it during my cycle

You need HCG

[Hitman Heimler]

I would get some HCG from your source, mate. Your boys would come back to life man, don't worry.

[Marcus W]

can you buy this at ar-r

[songdog]

age?

[Stosh_112]

seems to be an Aa-r drivin site. Hmmm kinda wierd that were getting advice from Ar-r marketing people... now for an answer other than Ar-r, Get some good ol fasion clomid for your pct. U should be ok with clomid and nolva. but u might wanna cut the deca out if u wanna be extra safe.

[Marcus W]

ok thank you everyone. so clomid can prevent testical shutdown?? if so can you take during cycle im just really worried about that

[BBrian]

Marcus, there is more information that you need to know, but how old are you exactly?

[Stosh_112]

A short sust cycle wont shut ur testes down that much, just get ur pct on track and enjoy ur run without spending money on HCG.

[JohnnyVegas]

seems to be an Aa-r drivin site. Hmmm kinda wierd that were getting advice from Ar-r marketing people... now for an answer other than Ar-r, Get some good ol fasion clomid for your pct. U should be ok with clomid and nolva. but u might wanna cut the deca out if u wanna be extra safe.

The only reason AR-R gets love here is they are a sponsor that has solid product. They have built up some trust in an industry that can be shady. I don't worry about accurate doses from them. I have ordered a dozen times, all without incident.

What I am saying is there is no conspiracy here, they are just a great source for people that have, for example, started a cycle and don't have proper PCT on hand. Do you think BG is a spokesperson for AR-R?

[BBrian]

seems to be an Aa-r drivin site. Hmmm kinda wierd that were getting advice from Ar-r marketing people... now for an answer other than Ar-r, Get some good ol fasion clomid for your pct. U should be ok with clomid and nolva. but u might wanna cut the deca out if u wanna be extra safe.

It would seem even weirder to post negative things about AR-R on a website that is sponsored by AR-R. Or perhaps disrespectful would be a better choice of words.

[Marcus W]

very young age I know 18

[Marcus W]

thats why i didnt do nothing big but test

[jimmyinkedup]

Im not quite sue what "not shut down that much" is but i assure you test will 100% shut you down.
OP you should have had this all ironed out pre cycle with all compounds in hand. Live and learn.
Get some hcg - run 250iu's - 2x/.week up to your pct. That will address your on cycle concern.
You should get clomid to add to the nolva for pct imo.
How about you do some reading in the pct forum and put up a proposed pct for us to check out?

Edited - you are only 18? Id strongly recommend you not do another shot. Cycling at 18 is not a prudent choice. Not just "because your young" blah blah blah...but because your endocrine system is not fully developedf and you could cause yourself some long term adversre physical and emotional effects. I urge you to reconsider and stop this cycle immediately. We have a great diet and workout forums - why not quit the cycle...check them out - get yourself in an optimal position and a few years down the road revisit the cycle thing?
Head on over to nutitonal resource forum..ill be happy to help you and so will many many others.

[BG]

seems to be an Aa-r drivin site. Hmmm kinda wierd that were getting advice from Ar-r marketing people... now for an answer other than Ar-r, Get some good ol fasion clomid for your pct. U should be ok with clomid and nolva. but u might wanna cut the deca out if u wanna be extra safe.

What are you talking about ass,whos marketing people?? I use his products with good results....thats it.

[Stosh_112]

No disrespect intended, But a few weeks ago it wasnt up in the right hand corner. And all this talk about sourcing is sooo forbidden but now its ok to Bump Ar-r??? Just seems like a scam. Granted 99% of the forum posts are knoweldgable.

[Stosh_112]

Ass??? guess i was right. Have fun with Ar-r

[Marcus W]

anything i can take pill form during my cycle to prevent shutdown???

[BBrian]

very young age I know 18

Ouch. You're right to be worried about shut-down, particularly because at your age you run an incredibly high risk of causing permanent damage to your testis by using anabolics in the first place. Whoever sold you these compounds is a first class dildo drug dealer. Well at any rate, there are a few things wrong with what you're doing and what you seem to believe at this point, particularly when you stated that nolvadex is only good for combating gyno and not good for testicular atrophy. Nolvadex is one of the most popular chemicals used for PCT, and therefore used to combat gonadal atrophy. So you're on your first day of injections? You really need to stop immediately, and remember that using steroids with such an inadequate level of education is one of the most irresponsible things you have ever done to your body. But if you want to risk having erectile dysfunction by the age of thirty, than by all means, continue with what you're doing. Also, 50mg of deca (I presume a week?) is absolutely pointless - I can't believe nobody else pointed this out.

At any rate, if you just stop using this sustanon right now, after one injection, you will be fine. Your testis are very strong at your age and they will recover after a single injection of testosterone. But if you continue this cycle, you won't be so lucky.

[JohnnyVegas]

No disrespect intended, But a few weeks ago it wasnt up in the right hand corner. And all this talk about sourcing is sooo forbidden but now its ok to Bump Ar-r??? Just seems like a scam. Granted 99% of the forum posts are knoweldgable.

Steroids are illegal, so sourcing forbidden. AR-R is legal.

Having said that, I would recommend the OP not worry about PCT and stop the cycle instead. I would not put your long-term health at risk using AAS at 18.

[pheenyx1]

A-ar is a research chem site, not a source for AAS. It is a legitimate, legal buisiness, so the "no source talk" rule does not apply. They are also a great company. I have used them a few times and plan to use them many more.
OP, if you are trying to prevent shutdown WHILE YOU ARE ON you need HCG. Post cycle you need nolva and clomid. You shouldnt be doing AAS at your age.

[BBrian]

No disrespect intended, But a few weeks ago it wasnt up in the right hand corner. And all this talk about sourcing is sooo forbidden but now its ok to Bump Ar-r??? Just seems like a scam. Granted 99% of the forum posts are knoweldgable.

You're just not understanding the specifics of the source issue Stosh. Listing sources for illegal drugs is against the rules, as obtaining prescription drugs without a prescription is illegal. AR-R does not sell prescription drugs. This isn't some sort of scandal designed to create an advertising monopoly for AR-R. You're just a little confused is all.

[Marcus W]

So is this gaurenteed i will have test shutdown

[Marcus W]

the wierd thing is ive done a cycle of enthante before and nothing happend? but at 250mg

[BBrian]

So is this gaurenteed i will have test shutdown

YES, unless you stop now. Good lord, I'm starting to turn into a troll here, it's as if you're only skimming through the responses.

[Marcus W]

this my 2nd cycle and i did one with out even pct which is dangerous

[JohnnyVegas]

So is this gaurenteed i will have test shutdown

Yes, you will absolutely have shut down.

the wierd thing is ive done a cycle of enthante before and nothing happend? but at 250mg

1. You don't know that nothing happened as sometimes problems don't show up for a while.

2. There is no way of knowing if you natural Test levels are as high as they were before you first cycle without blood work. Your Test levels could have dropped, but not so much that you feel awful...yet.

[Noles12]

this my 2nd cycle and i did one with out even pct which is dangerous

Doing any cycles at your age, PCT or not is dangerous.

One shot in you can safely come off without a PCT. You should stop immediately and research the risks of AAS use at 18

And please ont listen to the comments made above about how a short sust cycle will not shut you down that much. That is wrong. Running synthetic testosterone for weeks shuts down your natural production. Plain and simple

[Marcus W]

Thank you all im not even gona take them now

[JohnnyVegas]

And please ont listen to the comments made above about how a short sust cycle will not shut you down that much. That is wrong. Running synthetic testosterone for weeks shuts down your natural production. Plain and simple

Exactly. 200mg/wk (a very low dose for cycling) of Test Cyp will shut you down in two weeks. I imagine a short ester would shut you down faster.

Thank you all im not even gona take them now

You have a long life ahead, and it will be better if you don't cycle this young. Take some time to build up some muscle. Take the time to learn how this all works. You will be better off waiting.