Question about injections

**Cafe** · 01-25-2012, 02:47 PM

Where is the SAFEST spot, were your most likley to not hit a vein and die

**tomt45** · 01-25-2012, 03:23 PM

http://www.steroid.com/steroid_injections.php

Check that out but in my opinion the easiest places to hit are quads, delts and glutes. Make sure you aspirate and that way you will know if you are in a vein. I am sure you are joking about the dieing because of course you won't die if you hit a vein but it does suck really bad.

**Cafe** · 01-25-2012, 03:30 PM

thanks. im 23. im am a compettitive athlete, NOT a strength athlete per say. I have been lifting weights since my teens, i know how to eat, follow and regimen and know the importance of rest. i am 175 lbs 5'8 and relativley lean. Do you think im still growing? Is it true that you could be short changing your shoulder width? My brothers and older male relatives some r smaller then me and some are relativly tall ( 6'2-3). Do u think now, is a good time to to experiment with a cycle? I want something to look forward to in regards to training again the last year or so has fet real monotonous and I have noticd a slight dip in my recovery abilities as compard to my teens and early 20's. Any advice is appreciated. thanks im looking forward to learning alot and reading up on all the info on this site. Thans for taking the time to reply

**BBrian** · 01-25-2012, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Cafe

thanks. im 23. im am a compettitive athlete, NOT a strength athlete per say. I have been lifting weights since my teens, i know how to eat, follow and regimen and know the importance of rest. i am 175 lbs 5'8 and relativley lean. Do you think im still growing? Is it true that you could be short changing your shoulder width? My brothers and older male relatives some r smaller then me and some are relativly tall ( 6'2-3). Do u think now, is a good time to to experiment with a cycle? I want something to look forward to in regards to training again the last year or so has fet real monotonous and I have noticd a slight dip in my recovery abilities as compard to my teens and early 20's. Any advice is appreciated. thanks im looking forward to learning alot and reading up on all the info on this site. Thans for taking the time to reply

When you say that you're a competitive athlete, what in particular do you compete in?

At 23, there are certain parts of your body that are in all probability still growing, such as your endocrine system. The general opinion is that you should not experiment with anabolic steroids until you've reached the age of 25, as this is when the typical male's hormone system has at last stopped developing. If at your age you are noticing a reverse in your ability to recover, the fact that you stated monotonous is probably a good indication that it's time for you to reevaluate your diet and exercise regimen. I wouldn't start cycling steroids just yet. Instead go over to the workout and nutrition forum and ask questions there. We have a lot of members who can help you to maximize both of these areas that attribute to your development.

**The Bear 79** · 01-25-2012, 04:57 PM

I'm glad you have such an open mind about this Cafe, & you're asking all the right questions. At your age, your Endocrine & HPTA are not fully developed yet, if you cycle now, there is a significantly greater risk of doing potentially irreversible damage to those undeveloped systems. You could end up with E.D. (limp dik problems) chronic fatigue & depression, as well as a host of many other problems. You should wait until at LEAST 25.

**Cafe** · 01-25-2012, 05:20 PM

Will def take this advice into serious consideration. I dnt want to do any permanat damage to my body. At the same time, couldnt all or most of the sid effects be reduced through proper regimen? like post cycle and nutrition etc.

**Cafe** · 01-25-2012, 05:21 PM

Would the limp dik be ir reversible?

**BBrian** · 01-25-2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Cafe

Will def take this advice into serious consideration. I dnt want to do any permanat damage to my body. At the same time, couldnt all or most of the sid effects be reduced through proper regimen? like post cycle and nutrition etc.

Yes and no. The short-term side effects of estrogen are almost completely controllable, and gonad atrophy is easily combated. However, those aren't the side effects we're talking about. When you introduce synthetic hormones into your body at a point when the body is still developing its own hormone-producing organs, there is a serious potential to prevent those organs from being fully developed. What this means is that in the long run, you could inhibit your body's ability to produce natural testosterone , among other hormones for the rest of your life, and obviously this is something you want to avoid at all costs.

**The Bear 79** · 01-25-2012, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Cafe

Would the limp dik be ir reversible?

Maybe...............maybe not, its a gamble. Do you want to have to use Viagra every time you wana get laid in your early 20's? What do you think the girls will say when you say, "hold a min, let me pop my boner pill, I'll be ready to go in a little bit baby"?

**Cafe** · 01-25-2012, 05:35 PM

LOL. Yeah that would suck. Thats why im here though, cause I know so many people who have half assd it. And its only something that I have recently even considered. But this is def a cool forum and ill hang out. Im trying to read up on so much stuff here. Could you guys recomend any threads? Again thanks, im just trying to make the right decisions cause I already know several guys who use and thats cool but I just want to do the right thing for my situation and get advice from knowledgable expirienced ppl not the local gym rat

**Cafe** · 01-25-2012, 05:37 PM

Oh yeah by the way. I compete in boxing and to be honest I knowof no other boxers who use anything. But I also have several training partners who compete in mma and a few of them on on steroids and they probaly have good reason to be on but also they are a few years older then me

**The Bear 79** · 01-25-2012, 05:37 PM

Heres some more info on the "age issue" .... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...9#.TyBoBoEsZX0 ................. & here's the nutrition section, diet is a very important key bro........ http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.TyBoNoEsZX0

**Cafe** · 01-25-2012, 05:41 PM

thanks thats pretty basic right there! My stepfather has used steroids off and on for many years he says theres nothing wrong with steroids and I believe him to an extent but he also has told me tiime and again there not for me. so just really wanted some second opinions.