Results 1 to 37 of 37
  1. #1
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146

    Aromasin killed my manhood?

    Am at the end of week 4 of a 10 week cycle. Last night my d**k failed on me, mid-sex. My girlfriend is not happy about this. I can't find anything else to blame other than the Aromasin . I started taking the Aromasin the first day of week 3 and within 3 days my sex drive was slightly reduced. Kept getting worse until what happened last night. Here is my cycle:

    1-10 240mg Test400 EOD
    1-8 100mg Tren EOD
    3-14 12.5mg Arom EOD
    14-16 6.25 Arom EOD
    8-10 HMG 37.5iu x2 a week


    PCT

    12-16
    Clo 50/25/25/25
    Nol 40/20/20/20



    I didn't take my dose of Aromasin today and will remain off for 4 days. I will have my blood checked at that time to see what my Estrogen levels are. Already put in the request with my doctor. 12.5mg EOD is a relatively small dose of Aromasin, but I suspect I am either very sensitive to it or my body does not convert a lot of estrogen. I should NEVER have problems with sex with that much test in my body. I was having sex twice a day right before I started the Aromasin.



    Any thoughts?

  2. #2
    redz's Avatar
    redz is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    GTA
    Posts
    14,260
    Could be a prolactin problem from the Tren . Might need to get your hands on some cabaser(caber)

  3. #3
    tomt45 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts
    224
    Maybe try arimidex instead? Also I agree with red it might be from the tren ... That is pretty common for a lot of guys when they are on tren

  4. #4
    jasc's Avatar
    jasc is offline Welcome to the Good Life
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    8,319
    Don't have any suggestions because your cycle n compounds look to be correct.. Your Aromasin dose is pretty low for that amount of AAS.. Could it be prolactin related from the tren ? or maybe your Estrogen is too high and aromasin doses arent large enough? just throwin out ideas here.
    I'm interested to find out the results from the dr.

    bump for more input

  5. #5
    jasc's Avatar
    jasc is offline Welcome to the Good Life
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    8,319
    damn you guys beat me to it while I was typing..

  6. #6
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    Well I'm not bloated at all so I'm thinking estrogen isn't too high. Last time I went without AI on test only and started to look like the stay puffed marshmallow man no matter how much water I drank. I'm thinking my estrogen is too low because last cycle I was hugely bloated, meaning my estrogen was real high, but I had no gyno and still wanted to bone every 5 hours. This cycle, km not bloated and my sex drive is disappearing as I type this! It would be ok to stop this AI for a few days to see what happens right?

    If it is prolactin problems, any other symptoms so that I can be certain?

  7. #7
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    Ok now I'm starting to panick and am wondering if I should immediately double my dosage of Aromasin . I'm panicking like a little bitch right now so maybe that means my estrogen is too high

  8. #8
    Razor is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Carving Stone with Steel
    Posts
    7,787
    Try .25 adex 3X a week and see if that works.

  9. #9
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    Try .25 adex 3X a week and see if that works.
    It would take me a week to get a hold of that unless I have it overnighted. Wouldnt just increasing the Aromasin doseage do the same thing?

  10. #10
    gixxerboy1's Avatar
    gixxerboy1 is offline ~VET~ Extraordinaire~
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    32,802
    everything is a guess unless you get bloodwork
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

  11. #11
    slimshady01's Avatar
    slimshady01 is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,371
    Swifto Recommeds Aroma ar 12.5 ED for most cycles.. I would also put in a low dose of caber every 3 days for the Tren .

  12. #12
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    Swifto Recommeds Aroma ar 12.5 ED for most cycles.. I would also put in a low dose of caber every 3 days for the Tren.
    Ok ill start taking my 12.5 ED then. Looks like I need another bottle. Also does the board sponsor (the place I get my arom) have the caber? I thought not and only prami. Will prami work the same?

  13. #13
    TITANIUM's Avatar
    TITANIUM is offline “SIS PACIS INSTRUO PRO BELLUM”
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    purgatory
    Posts
    5,844
    Blog Entries
    15
    Try Caber or Bromo as tren has killed my sex drive in the past my friend.

    Best

    T

  14. #14
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    Can I use prami instead of caber?

  15. #15
    redz's Avatar
    redz is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    GTA
    Posts
    14,260
    Yes you can

  16. #16
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    While searching for more info about caber/prami, it seems that they do nothing to help with sex drive. Only literally milk and fluid production from the nips. The AI is what helps get the sex drive right. Am I wrong about this?

  17. #17
    auslifta's Avatar
    auslifta is offline Retired MONITOR
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    flying from the ashes
    Posts
    3,966
    Get bloodwork asap to see whats really going on. Do you have bloods from pre cycle? If so post both sets up.

  18. #18
    redz's Avatar
    redz is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    GTA
    Posts
    14,260
    They lower prolactin which is the likely reason you are having issues. Caber can even make you have multiple orgasms though I only experienced this once. After you have an orgasm you have a high prolactin level thus the reason you can`t immediately get another erection right away. So any time prolactin is high it can interfere with getting an erection or keeping it.

  19. #19
    auslifta's Avatar
    auslifta is offline Retired MONITOR
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    flying from the ashes
    Posts
    3,966
    Quote Originally Posted by billgates View Post
    While searching for more info about caber/prami, it seems that they do nothing to help with sex drive. Only literally milk and fluid production from the nips. The AI is what helps get the sex drive right. Am I wrong about this?
    Sex drive requires a right ratio dependent on the person. You don't want to start taking caber/prami unless you need to. The only real way to know is to get bloodwork. Otherwise you are just guessing.

  20. #20
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    Quote Originally Posted by auslifta View Post
    Sex drive requires a right ratio dependent on the person. You don't want to start taking caber/prami unless you need to. The only real way to know is to get bloodwork. Otherwise you are just guessing.

    So I need to have labs that check estrogen and prolactin levels? I would like to check the test levels too but I'd rather avoid that trouble with my doc. I am super curious to see if what I'm taking is properly dosed.


    Should I take 500mg of b6 in the meantime? Will that hurt anything?

  21. #21
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    My estrogen was too high. I went home on lunch and took a 12.5mg dose of Aromasin . I will continue to take this ED now.

    I got home from work and beat my girlfriends female parts to a pulp. Then went to the gym and came home and gave her more. She literally fell asleep in the same position I left her and didn't move until the alarm went off 8 hours later. Yesterday morning I couldn't control my little guy if I wanted to. I also had a pretty fair amount of anxiety which seems to have gone away as well. I'm just hoping that I don't start to have prolactin problems as those seem even worse than estrogen problems.

    Thanks for helping me brainstorm guys, I will still get those labs when my lazy ass DR responds to my email.

  22. #22
    TheClinch's Avatar
    TheClinch is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    BC-CANADA
    Posts
    1,123
    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    everything is a guess unless you get bloodwork
    ^^^
    This right here

  23. #23
    Twolf20 is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    14
    Glad you got it fixed. I'd still get the bloodwork just to be sure. Upon starting aromasin during my last cycle, my sex drive plummeted but then leveled out after a week or so.

  24. #24
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    Quote Originally Posted by Twolf20 View Post
    Glad you got it fixed. I'd still get the bloodwork just to be sure. Upon starting aromasin during my last cycle, my sex drive plummeted but then leveled out after a week or so.

    Definitely will, thanks!

  25. #25
    Gi812Many's Avatar
    Gi812Many is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    674
    Would put money down its the Tren ....It took me two cycles to get my libido in check. I slingshot cycle so I cycle 8 weeks, 2 weeks off, 8 weeks on and on. Im at the end of my first week of a 2 week deload after my 3rd cycle. This last cycle was incredible, im a walking hard on. I take 12.5mgs/daily of Aromasin and Nolvadex 10mgs/daily

  26. #26
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    Quote Originally Posted by Gi812Many View Post
    Would put money down its the Tren....It took me two cycles to get my libido in check. I slingshot cycle so I cycle 8 weeks, 2 weeks off, 8 weeks on and on. Im at the end of my first week of a 2 week deload after my 3rd cycle. This last cycle was incredible, im a walking hard on. I take 12.5mgs/daily of Aromasin and Nolvadex 10mgs/daily
    Well everything seems to be back to normal from using Aromasin alone. I think this time it was estrogen and not the prolactin. Woke up with a cinder block this morning. Don't know though, maybe prolactin problems kind of come and go.

  27. #27
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    Well my Dr won't order the labs because its "beyond the scope of his practice". What a *****! This is a huge health care provider in the US, HUGE. AND I work for them! I can't believe they won't accommodate me for something so simple. I came in once years ago and pulled a 244 on testosterone , which is about what an 80 year old man would score, and they wouldn't give me injections or anything because it needed to be below 240.

    Whatever, I'm annoyed, can anyone tell me where I can get these done independently?

  28. #28
    dogtags is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    259
    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    everything is a guess unless you get bloodwork
    +1

    Get some work done man, guessing can often lead to consequences.

  29. #29
    Brohim's Avatar
    Brohim is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Houston
    Posts
    1,297
    Quote Originally Posted by billgates View Post
    Well my Dr won't order the labs because its "beyond the scope of his practice". What a *****! This is a huge health care provider in the US, HUGE. AND I work for them! I can't believe they won't accommodate me for something so simple. I came in once years ago and pulled a 244 on testosterone , which is about what an 80 year old man would score, and they wouldn't give me injections or anything because it needed to be below 240.

    Whatever, I'm annoyed, can anyone tell me where I can get these done independently?
    yeah bro privatemdlabs dot com. Select a test then find a center close to you. You can find a 15% discount code. If you run Tren not a bad idea to have caber on hand as well.

    Remember the forumla, you take 25mg of Aromosin for each 100mg of Test, so you were taking half your needed dose hence the high E2.
    Last edited by Brohim; 01-28-2012 at 04:19 PM.

  30. #30
    Cravenmorehead is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    188
    I would recommend that anyone who is in a relationship to never use TREN ........the anger, nightsweats, and sexual dysfunction are not worth it in my opinion.......it's a good way to lose the one you love.

  31. #31
    Far from massive's Avatar
    Far from massive is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    No Sources Given
    Posts
    5,408
    Craven,

    Tren affects different people differently. I am 56 and have never had any problems using either Tren or Deca , I am not as oversexed as on Test alone but while on or off 19 nors ( I am on TRT so during PCT is not an issue) never had any trouble getting or maintaining an erection.

  32. #32
    Ashop's Avatar
    Ashop is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    9,931
    I would try a different AI even though that low dose AROMASIN shouldnt cause you any issues,,everyone reacts differently.

  33. #33
    billgates is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    146
    Quote Originally Posted by Brohim View Post
    yeah bro privatemdlabs dot com. Select a test then find a center close to you. You can find a 15% discount code. If you run Tren not a bad idea to have caber on hand as well.

    Remember the forumla, you take 25mg of Aromosin for each 100mg of Test, so you were taking half your needed dose hence the high E2.
    I wasn't aware of this, thank you.

  34. #34
    gixxerboy1's Avatar
    gixxerboy1 is offline ~VET~ Extraordinaire~
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    32,802
    Quote Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead View Post
    I would recommend that anyone who is in a relationship to never use TREN........the anger, nightsweats, and sexual dysfunction are not worth it in my opinion.......it's a good way to lose the one you love.
    everyone reacts different. That is a very broad and imo wrong statement
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

  35. #35
    Gi812Many's Avatar
    Gi812Many is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    674
    I would recommend that anyone who is in a relationship to never use TREN ........the anger, nightsweats, and sexual dysfunction are not worth it in my opinion.......it's a good way to lose the one you love.
    Anger, never dealt with that....Nightsweats for sure, sexual dysfunction came in the beginning as my body was adjusting to it...Since then, never dealt with any issues. I am a Tren whore now

  36. #36
    songdog's Avatar
    songdog is offline ARs TOP DOG ~ MONITOR ~
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    13,686
    I love tren makes me horny as hell.But I do get the sweats also.

  37. #37
    Cravenmorehead is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    188
    I stand corrected.......just my experience......and.....outside pressures could certainly influence the response.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •