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    danielbiker is offline New Member
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    First Cycle-Do i got it right?

    Hi ,

    I'm new to this forum and i'm pretty sure there are a lot of guys over there who really knows this stuff.I'm thinking to try anabolics and after hours of research i came up with this.Let me know, please what do you think:
    Week 1-12 : 500 mg Testosterone enanthate
    Week 1-4 : 20mg/day Dianabol
    Week 13 : off
    Week 14-18:Nolvadex 20 mg/Day
    Week 14-17:Aromasin 20mg/Day
    Week 14-16:HCG 2000iu/every 4 days
    Vitamin E 1000iu/day
    Also are any of you living in Atlanta,Georgia area or know somebody who is willing to share his knowledge with me?I guess you got it.


    Thanks,
    Daniel

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    Assuming you are under 14% BF. Have a very clean diet and have been training for 3-4 years non stop this would be my advice.

    Some changes.
    Take HCG from week 2 - 14 500IU's a week split into 250iu/250iu
    Take Aromasin 10mg eod from Day 1
    Take Liv52/Milk thistle

    This PCT was suggested by Swifto to me.

    PCT Starts end of week 14
    Clomid 50/25/25/25/25/25
    Nova 40/20/20/20/20/20

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    20mg dbol for first cycle is not really recommended you don't know how your body will react..It's hard to troubleshoot the issue if you are running two compounds.
    However if you do want to take the risk running 30mg dbol week 1-6

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    danielbiker is offline New Member
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    I just read few articles and not everybody is on the same page regarding HCG .Some people say is good and others say is better to stay away from it.I'm kind of confused now.

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    pct should start week 15
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    what are your stats, age,weight,height,.

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    danielbiker is offline New Member
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    Thanks for answering to my question.Now I'm 33 years old, 5' 10",198 lb and about 16% BF?

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    I used the hcg during the cycle. 500iu every 4 days and had no problems

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    Use hcg during cycle up until a few days before PCT. I would increase dbol to 30mg since 20mg wont give you a noticeable effect, and PCT is 2 weeks after last test-e injection. A standard Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50 should be good for this cycle. Always take an AI during cycle like adex or aromasin

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    Your first cycle should be a test only cycle so you can gauge your side effects and you are on the borderline for fat % why not do more rigorous cardio and drop a few points and then you'll be in better shape to see better results

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    danielbiker is offline New Member
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    Thanks guys for your response.I really apreciate it.Now based on your input i made some changes:

    Week 1-12: 500 mg testosterone enanthate /250 mg twice a week
    1 Mg Arimidex EOD
    Week 1-5: 25 mg/day D/bol(optional)
    Liv 52
    Week 2-12: 250iu HCG /twice a week


    Week 13-14: Off

    Week 15-18 :Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
    Aromasin 20/20/20/20

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    If you're running Adex as your AI, I think you can cut it in half and bring it down to .5mg EOD.

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