Why do people bother with dbol and winstrol when they're not all that effective compared to injectable alternatives?
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Why do people bother with dbol and winstrol when they're not all that effective compared to injectable alternatives?
Your statement isnt completely true. They are both every effective drugs when used in the proper doses at the right times within a cycle. D-Bol only stupid idea. Kickstarting your cycle with 4 weeks of D-bol is never bad.
Winstrol only stupid idea. Winstrol at a BF% of 15% or greater not the best idea but you may see some results from it. Winstrol is more of a pre-contest drug and really shows its effects best when the user 10% BF or less. ITs more of a hardening drug.
Both drugs are powerful and useful when used correctly.
Because it blows you up with water weight quickly and people mistake it for muscle.
Okay, thanks for explaining.
I just had a conversation with my buddy about the same thing this morning. He asked me if he should take anavar with this Test/Tren stack. I said what in the world for? The affect of the anavar on the body will be minimal compared to the Test/Tren but the affect on the pocket book's huge. When I was just starting out I opted more for orals because it seemed safer and I could mitigate the sides more readily. Once I got a better handle on AAS I've stopped taking the orals.
I dont use orals that much anymore but its funny you mentioned 2 I think are worth using. I think they need to be used properly. Low dose dbol during a cycle has a great effect on protein sysnthesis and nitrogen retention. Winstrol offers great synergy when added in a test/19 nor stack like test and deca or test and tren. I like them both for the reasons I just mentioned and in my experience they are far from a waste when used in this manner.
Winstrol is one of my favorites when used the right way. I`m not on any orals now but I may add in some winny through the end of my cycle.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup
Personally, high-dose winstrol's done more for my physique than an equal amount of test ever has.
There are no 'useless' anabolics. There are, however, poorly researched/laid out/applied cycles, workouts, and diets.
I agree. I think u can keep the bloat down with dbol if u have a good diet and the strength gains are awesome. (Everyone is different )I I do love when as said above when u use at low bf%...I did notice my vascularity increase on winny but such low bf was probably a huge factor also.
Funny no one mentioned anadrol.
Not really since the op question has to do with dbol and winstrolQuote:
Originally Posted by gearbox
Where did you come up with that theory? I have to say I disagree with you totally on both the DBOL and WINSTROL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judoka410
I meant using them exclusively.Quote:
Originally Posted by ****
People using them exclusively are usually uneducated and are looking for a magic pill
orals are amazing, more harsh no the body tho, easy to experiment when new to aas as using as a kickstart but when ur an experienced orals are a great friend, i would never use abomb/dbol/tbol to use as a kick start, u get much better results running for long amounts of time, when ever i run dbol/anadrol/tbol now i run em 8-12 weeks long. winni ill continue to use until it effects my joints to much.always 6+ weeks. i love orals and there quick to take. cant wait to try out halo
Thats sort of what I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noles12
i love me some adrol/dbol from the strength gains. i run an AI to keep water weight from shooting up.
Damn bro! You are straight up crazy!Quote:
Originally Posted by markdbg
Don't go trying to run halo for 8-12 weeks bro. I won't run that stuff longer than 2 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by markdbg