question about estrogen?

[felk87]

Hey bros, im kind of concern that i might be killing all my estrogen or almost all. My libido was going of the chart about a week ago, yesterday i brought a girl home and the worst happen, could not get my wood all the way up. Im also not noticing any gains, im eating and training harder than ever with enough rest but gains are very little and results are not what i expected. I am on 500 test e pw 2shots ew. I change my dose of ai which is liquidex up depending on bloat. My doses range from. 25 -.50 mg ed. I stoped it and i am doing e3d because i am thinking my e levels are very low....im on my 4 th week going into my 5th week tomorrow. Any input from people that actually have knowledge?

[Honkey_Kong]

How much time have you given since lowering your adex? The halflife of adex is like almost 47 hours. So if it killed your e levels, it probably needs a few days.

[gixxerboy1]

dont try and chase your e levels daily by looking how bloated you are. Diet, how much water you drank can change bloating daily.
How do your joints feel?

[gearbox]

can you get a blood test..that is the best way to do it. Other wise we are all just guessing and everyones body is different. You exxperiencing any joint pain?

[jimmyinkedup]

I had this occur when I used letro the one and only time i used it. It took a good bit of time to straighten out. I thought I knew my body extremely well and could manage by adjusting dosages and frequency - but I couldnt. Obviously letro is diff than adex - in our circles letro = strongest, adex=weakest , but I know the frustration.
Its a hard thing to manage efficiently without bloodwork. It could even be something else.
Anyway Im not pretending to know an exact solution , but I have been there and hope u fix it quickly. I personall tried to manage it for several weeks then it took 2 weeks to get some minor relief after dropping letro. Then I transitioned to adex. In total I had well over a month of something I never want to repeat.
Id expect at least a week maybe more (like 2) till u know if u are on the right track.

[BBrian]

You're not the first person I've heard complain about Letrozole killing sex drive. Have you considered getting some Arimidex to replace it with?

[gearbox]

as said above letro will kill estro (big time)..I have taken at very very slow doses and was okay, but running arim is a much better idea

[jamotech]

As Gixxerboy said, the joints are gonna be the best sign, along with sex-drive, not water retention. 500mg test a week, you should have killer sex drive. I just confirmed with BW my E2 was in the basement, joint pain and sex drive loss were very noticeable.

[felk87]

No my joints feel fine, i have liquidex which is what i am running since week 2, the reason why i kept on changing my dose was because i was trying to figure out the right dose, i was bloated as hell until i started the liquidex. Im gonna stick with.25 eod and hopefully this shyt will get fixed....any suggestions if i should go e3d or eod .25-.50mg

[felk87]

Bump for a suggestion...

[xelnaga]

I use a very low dose of letro on cycle. Ive crashed my estrogen on a few occasions. One thing you need to consider is that your body naturally rids itself of estrogen. So if you crash it, then cut back your dose of adex by .25 or .5 and continue it, it will still take a long time for estrogen to build back up to a healthy level. When I crash my estrogen I take a week or so off of my AI all together- When I feel like sex drive come back online I begin a lesser dose of letro than I was previously using. I hope that makes sense.

[felk87]

I use a very low dose of letro on cycle. Ive crashed my estrogen on a few occasions. One thing you need to consider is that your body naturally rids itself of estrogen. So if you crash it, then cut back your dose of adex by .25 or .5 and continue it, it will still take a long time for estrogen to build back up to a healthy level. When I crash my estrogen I take a week or so off of my AI all together- When I feel like sex drive come back online I begin a lesser dose of letro than I was previously using. I hope that makes sense.

Im kind of confussed why people keep mentioning letro, i though liquidex was arimidex in liquid form, anyway i do have letro but thats for gyno if it happens to appear....any way to make e serum rise?

[xelnaga]

Im kind of confussed why people keep mentioning letro, i though liquidex was arimidex in liquid form, anyway i do have letro but thats for gyno if it happens to appear....any way to make e serum rise?

Time away from your AI is the best way.

[gixxerboy1]

liquidex is arimidex

[xelnaga]

And I only mentioned letro because that is the AI I use. Its cheaper than other options because its so potent.

[felk87]

And I only mentioned letro because that is the AI I use. Its cheaper than other options because its so potent.

I got u, im going to get of the ai for a few days atleast

[felk87]

Would it be wise to run nolva at 10mg everyday until i start the ai again to avoid the e rebound from causing gyno. I read adex is good at rebound

[BBrian]

I got confused too because someone else started talking about Letro. I've never heard of Arimidex killing sex drive, forget what I posted.

[xelnaga]

I got confused too because someone else started talking about Letro. I've never heard of Arimidex killing sex drive, forget what I posted.

Any aromatase inhibitor has the potential to crash your estrogen, and thus kill your sex drive. Some are harsher than others.

[gixxerboy1]

Any aromatase inhibitor has the potential to crash your estrogen, and thus kill your sex drive. Some are harsher than others.

correct.

[gixxerboy1]

Would it be wise to run nolva at 10mg everyday until i start the ai again to avoid the e rebound from causing gyno. I read adex is good at rebound

you will be fine. I wouldnt add in nolva

[BBrian]

Any aromatase inhibitor has the potential to crash your estrogen, and thus kill your sex drive. Some are harsher than others.

Makes sense, thanks for the follow up.

[felk87]

Any idea how long it should be, i can still get wood, just not sustain it for too long and no where near as hard, but i can live with it just got to keep my mind right.

[jimmyinkedup]

Im kind of confussed why people keep mentioning letro, i though liquidex was arimidex in liquid form, anyway i do have letro but thats for gyno if it happens to appear....any way to make e serum rise?

Probably because i used my experience with letro as an analogy. I thought i pointed out even thi letro is much stronger the consequences could be the same , but I apologize if this cased confusion for some.