First Cycle for Army; Please offer advice and experience

[akanavo2]

Hello everyone. I am looking to start my first cycle. I am looking for advice on what to use, how to use it, and for how long. I have a decent overall knowledge I feel, but not a great grasp for the fine details that I feel I should have if I am going to make this step. I am not looking for anything too hardcore or magic, I am still willing to put a lot of work into this. SAFETY IS HUGE TO ME.

Goals: I am currently in the Army so peak cardiovascular and muscular endurance are important to maintain, but I am also an avid fan of power. I am currently 5'11" 190 pounds with an 12%-13% body fat. I'd like to be able to maintain as much size and weight as possible, while lowering the body fat.

I am specifically seeking cycle advice for anavar (oxandrolone) at about 50mgs/day. I would like to take this in an oral form. I have been told to take a testosterone as well during this about 8 week cycle I am aiming for. Here's where my confusion comes in....

1) Since the anavar will be an oral form, does the testosterone have to be injected or can that be in an oral form as well?
2) If I take a testosterone with it, am I more likely to loose the results after the cycle is over, because I hear that anavar results are pretty easy to maintain, and that is important to me. I am not looking to be a consistant and often steroid cycler (I don't think).
3) PCT and Liver Cleansers? Should I use both of these to be safe? If yes, what should I use? Nolva?

Please offer any advice or recommendations, the more specific the better. I am open to any information from those with more experience from me. I would prefer anavar & test, but am open to other options as well.

Thanks for everything you guys post!

[stpete]

What is your height and age?

[FireGuy]

Profile says he is 19, post says he is 5'10.
Taking anything at your age is generally frowned upon. You are putting yourself at risk for some long term health issues that simply arent worth the risk considering at 19 you have a ton of natural testosterone already. You ended your first paragraph in caps. If that's true you will take your own advice and spend the next 4-5 years training hard and dialing in your diet. I know we all want things right away but I promise with some hard work you have lots of natural muscle that can be built.

Thanks for your service too by the way. Much respect to what you do.

[stpete]

Don't know how i missed that. And yeah, your way too young for aas. Take advantage of your age and those natural hormones.

[xo3et]

Dont cycle, you are too young and going by how my life was in the military it is not suited for it. One minute on exercise then getting shipping out at little notice, having to inject when living a life possibly on the move at any time is a no go.

You ask for advice, listen to fireguy and Stpete and take it.

Stick around and spend time in the diet section and learn how to maximize the high natural Test levels you have until your old enough. Good luck..

[akanavo2]

Yes I am currently 19 and 5'11" hovering around 190. Yes I knew the age discussion would come up, and I agree to an extent. That is why I was looking for something on the low end such as anavol because it seems it does not mess with test levels as much and I do have a bunch of that running around in my body already. I am not too fond of the idea of injectable test, but most seem to recommend it with avavol but i'd like to vear away from it because the safetly of those maturing levels are important to me.

Is just an anavol cycle (no test or anything else) still harmful at a younger age? Honestly. It seemed like a "small step" i guess you could say to me to give a little edge, but nothing serious or excessive.

[Times Roman]

Aren't you worried about contraband in the wall locker? or has the army gotten so soft now that inspections are "old school"?

[FireGuy]

Anavar has been proven to significantly decrease natural test levels.

[akanavo2]

Times Roman: inspections or getting tested in any branch of the military doesnt seem to be a fear by many. obviously, anything anabolic/performance enhancing is illigal by military law. it surprised me a bit and seems to do the same to many that there are a pretty fair amount of steriods in the military. i'd imagine that most that do justify it by the fact that if you are not physically and mentally stronger than an opposing force, your life quickly becomes more and more on the line. To me, I just want to be at the highest level i can be at without going overboard.

Fireguy: i know it decreases it, but much less to the extent of other options from what I understand. (Please correct me if that's wrong). If they do decrease it, is just a anavar cycle not safe then? from what i have researched, it seems like the only thing people would even consider taking without a test foundation. Why is that the case if it still hits your test levels in a negative way?

[Times Roman]

Mate,
No one here is going to get too excited about advising a 19 year old on taking steroids, even something as mild as var. Just speaking for myself, I would tell you to focus on your diet and exercise routines. I know you can get some damn good food out of the DFAC. Camp Eggers has TBone steak every friday night. food there is excellent.

And the reality is, unless you are special forces, the chances of you being in an opposing force situation, and then attributing a victory to anavar use, is low. i'm ex military, and just back from Afghanistan, and can guarantee that anavar use isn't going to be a deciding factor in being mentally and physically stronger than the opposing force. So whoever uses that as an excuse, I give them an E for Effort, as it is a nice try, and sounds reasonable for those that haven't been there....

[FireGuy]

Read the book A Question of Muscle:Human Subject Abuses in Anabolic Steroid Research. You can Kindle it for about $10. Its a somewhat tedious read but lot's of good information on hypogonadism upon cessation of use. Several studies on Oxandrolone (anavar) and the results of natural test levels after use.

[akanavo2]

Times Roman: I don't use that as my excuse, just saying. I don't have an excuse, simply that I want to gain knowledge about what is out there and maximize my own performance. I agree, nothing replaces overall diet and workout regimens. Just seeking info from guys like you who know their stuff.

Fireguy: ill look into that, I'm always up for a good read.

But a question, can you take more than one oral? Most of what I read seems to say not to cause of the beating it puts on your liver, but then you see stacks out there that have winny or dbol or what ever with test pills for example. What's the truth there?

[Times Roman]

Mate,
never take more than one oral at a time. Regarding test pills. very expensive and hard to find. but like any oral, it still must pass the liver, which will strain it.

[akanavo2]

I thought so. Thanks for all the help.

[BBrian]

By the way, maintaining a proper diet while in the military requires buying a lot of food. The chow/mess halls are only open for three meals a day, unless of course you happen to work at one. But on the bright side, you aren't paying rent or utilities, so it isn't as if a person who is financially responsible can't afford the food.