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    If someone could have a choice

    Ok, I am still in the research part of all this and although I have a good idea of what I would like to do, I was particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on a good first cycle would be if we had a choice in the matter. I am 210 lbs 6'2 and about 8-10 % body fat and obviously looking to get bigger, I have read so much materials on each steroid and to be honest kinda over whelmed. If any one has some thoughts on this matter I would take everyone experience in to consideration on first time cycle and PCT too.

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    How old are you, how long have you been training and what type of training, and how does your diet look?

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    I am 33 training for about a 1 1/2 years, I eat 6 times per day and about 480 cals and 33 grams protein per meal.

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    train natty for a few more years and out on size naturally then if u want to do aas. A test only cycle is recommended for first time users. Usually test e

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    First cycle is supposed to be test only cycle. Have to research on AI's and PCT. look at some simple steroid cycles on this website

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    My opinion is test only, my first cycle was test and deca but I will soon be doing a test only cycle so I understand what it does to my body alone. If you do a test only cycle first and down the road you decide to do another cycle and add a compound you while have a better idea of what's going on with your body.

    Rite now you have no idea how your body is going to react to test so why through more compounds in there?

    Somebody on this board always says "it's a marathon, not a race"

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    I'm new too kinda in the same shoes... From what I have researched and have. Been told run test only for your first cycle that way if you have an ill reaction you are. Not trying to find out which compound it is from, if I'm incorrect Please correct me. Also I'm planning on running test e 500mg/week x12 weeks. armidex .25 mg eod and clomid/nolva for pct good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by teezer33 View Post
    I am 33 training for about a 1 1/2 years, I eat 6 times per day and about 480 cals and 33 grams protein per meal.
    your calorie count seems a bit low for someone looking to gain size so id address that first by hitting up the nutrition forum the peeps there can get you on the right track for growth to start....next i would evaluate your training split, are you still gaining/making progress...seems that 1.5 years isnt enough time to decide you need steroids ...you certainly old enough to make your own decisions so wether you decide to cycle or not is up to you but all of the aas in the word will not help you until you straighten up your diet and training to start gaining natty again(assuming you have platued) then aas will be of much greater value toward your goal...goodluck...

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    Yes I believe I have not reached my goal yet but I am still researching for the future tense I do not plan not to rush in to anything until I am 100% ready. Just curious of peoples first time cycle and pct

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    As ghettoboyd pointed out you'll need to increase your diet quite a bit. Right now you're taking approximately 2880 calories per day and 198g of protein per day. At 6'2" 210 you have some serious potential for growth and that is a wonderful thing, but you'll need to increase your intake by about 50% or more to ensure that you not only get the most out of your cycle, but get the most out of your exercise both on and off cycle. But on to your actual question, for a first cycle, the basic protocol is 10-12 weeks of testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate in the range of 400-600mg per week. You'll want to obtain either Aromasin , Arimidex , or Letrozole to combat estrogen while on cycle. Each compound are taken in different doses, but if it were Arimidex, for example, you'd want to be taking about 0.25mg every other day or every three days. Your body fat is so low that every three days may prove sufficient. Finally, for PCT, clomifene citrate (pharm name Clomid) and tamoxifine citrate (pharm name Nolvadex ) are the most popular compounds to use. You would want to take them somewhere around the following ranges:
    Clomid: 50mg every day weeks 1-2, 25mg every day weeks 3-4
    Nolvadex: 40mg every day weeks 1-2, 20mg every day weeks 3-4

    Also, HCG is worth looking in to. Taking it during your cycle will prevent your gonads from shutting down, which makes PCT easier and more efficient. With taking only a mid-range dose of testosterone for a cycle, it isn't absolutely necessary, but at age 33 it's definitely worth spending the extra money on.

    Don't let yourself get too overwhelmed, you're doing the right thing to spend more time researching and less time asking for unadulterated guidance.

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    Good to know BB

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