Moon Face

[JD3]

Just finishing up my second cycle which consisted of 2cc 325mg sust & 1cc 300mg deca a week and have been very pleased with my gains thus far but i'm noticed my face is very bloated, i am fully aware that this comes with the territory and i knew this would happen from the get go. my question is can i take anything to reduce the bloating even more cardio if that will help. as of right now i do cardio 2/3x a week as i am trying to build mass and not get cut. any input would help, thanks.

[Bulkn]

It should go away when the compounds are out your system..

[BBrian]

Moon, were you not taking an aromatase inhibitor on-cycle? An AI, when taken at an appropriate dose, should prevent bloating. On the other hand, a high-sodium intake can cause facial bloating as well.

[cro]

even with an ai still might get moon face. but less likely to hold water.

[AD]

why not try a diuretic for your water retention? lasix for a few days. or spirololactone.

but i dont think you have moonface. thats more often from cortico-steroids, not from anabolics

[JD3]

so you guys think my best bet would be just a water retention pill for time being? i dont want to come off cycle but my face has gotten really bloated it almost looks like a have a double chin while the rest of my body is lean

[JD3]

what type of AI would you guys recommend? also, could i take both an ai as well as a water retention or would it be pointless essentially? thanks

[DeadlyD]

Arimadex @ .5mgs EOD

[Sgt. Hartman]

why not try a diuretic for your water retention? lasix for a few days. or spirololactone.

but i dont think you have moonface. thats more often from cortico-steroids, not from anabolics

Yeah lasix would be a great idea. Take a potassium depleting diuretic that can kill you just so your face doesn't look a little swollen.

OP - an AI should help out alot. Try exemestane at 10mg ED or anastrozole at .5mg EOD.

[Ashop]

Just finishing up my second cycle which consisted of 2cc 325mg sust & 1cc 300mg deca a week and have been very pleased with my gains thus far but i'm noticed my face is very bloated, i am fully aware that this comes with the territory and i knew this would happen from the get go. my question is can i take anything to reduce the bloating even more cardio if that will help. as of right now i do cardio 2/3x a week as i am trying to build mass and not get cut. any input would help, thanks.

If your still on adding an AI will help reduce bloat and water retention. Watch your sodium intake,,,eat clen,,,and drink plenty of water.

[JD3]

aside from exemestane & anastrozole do you have any other recommendations on a good ai?

[FireGuy]

The majority of Moon Face is simply due to having too much bodyfat.

[JD3]

prior to cycling i had a very slim face, i have since put on 13lbs but no where else is getting fat i am building muscle. Its like the rest of my body is getting bigger but my face is just getting bloated

[JD3]

should i intensify my cardio? im open to any suggestions

[titan13]

Have you checked into Aromasin?

[JD3]

no ill check it out, at this point im going to look into aromasin, exemestane & anastrozole

[Sgt. Hartman]

Aromasin is the name brand for exemestane. You need to run an AI on cycle whether you have moon face or not. Check out the banner at the top right corner of this page ar-r.

[AD]

Yeah lasix would be a great idea. Take a potassium depleting diuretic that can kill you just so your face doesn't look a little swollen.

OP - an AI should help out alot. Try exemestane at 10mg ED or anastrozole at .5mg EOD.

i find it pretty ironic for someone who pin themselves with life-altering hormones to be afraid of a few tabs of lasix. but if you like potassium-sparring diuretic, surely you'll consider spironolactone.

but i guess if someone is not familiar with the dosages and duration of use, any drug can be dangerous

[soulstealer]

Yeah lasix would be a great idea. Take a potassium depleting diuretic that can kill you just so your face doesn't look a little swollen.

OP - an AI should help out alot. Try exemestane at 10mg ED or anastrozole at .5mg EOD.

SERIOUSLY... WTF... ASIANDUDE stop giving out advice... Lasix is not a good idea.... he would look dry as hell for a day maybe if he was still alive... then balloon up and have double moon face...

[Sgt. Hartman]

i find it pretty ironic for someone who pin themselves with life-altering hormones to be afraid of a few tabs of lasix. but if you like potassium-sparring diuretic, surely you'll consider spironolactone.

but i guess if you're not familiar with the dosages and duration of use, any drug can be dangerous

An overdose of hormones has never killed anyone, unlike lasix...... Don't make stupid excuses for giving irresponsible, dangerous advise.

[Scat40]

Moon face is more of a serious problem related to hypothyroidism. Could be from water retention, but usually water does not sit on the face 1st. Is it just more weight gain? If it persists, you may definately want to get it checked out.

[muscleport]

Moon face is more of a serious problem related to hypothyroidism. Could be from water retention, but usually water does not sit on the face 1st. Is it just more weight gain? If it persists, you may definately want to get it checked out.

I also say check it out with a doctor, moon face sounds like a symptom of endocrine disorder.

[The Titan99]

Water retention is usually due to not drinking enough water, at least it is with me.

[JD3]

would arimidex work?

[soulstealer]

would arimidex work?

Most likely Yes... Start with .5 EOD...

[JD3]

soulstealer arimidex is sold out, I looked into "Liquid Letro" and read that it is more effective. Is this something you would recommend?

[gearbox]

Letro will work but at a smaller dose. Letro is the strongest

[JD3]

At what dosages would you recommend? Ed or eod

[gearbox]

Well for bloat I would look more into my sodium and water intake. For dose everyone is different its more trial and error I would do .5 e3d. I would look for adex or aroma before letro

[JD3]

My sodium intake is fairly low & I'm drinking a ton of water. My first choice was adex but ar-r is sold out & my guy is charging an arm and a leg. That's why I switched to liquid letro

[The Titan99]

Go for the Stane. Better than adex anyway. Letro will turn your dick into a drain for your bladder, not much else. No rebound on the stane either.

[JD3]

Titan I was shying away from paying that much, I checked online and it was $90 but for that I could get adex pills you know

[JD3]

Titan I looked online and stand is $90, for that I could get adex pills but I was looking into letro because it seemed like the best bang for my buck you know?

[JD3]

Didn't realize that posted twice, the app isn't that good

[The Titan99]

I'd spend the extra money. When you look at the dosing it's not as bad as it seems....

[JD3]

I just realized its 25mg/ml which would last a whole lot longer then adex which is only 2.5mg/ml. Whats the dosage for stane?

[ramacher]

On a side note, when do you usually add an AI on cycle? Do you start right away to prevent it from on the onset? Or begin like week 3 or 4 when you notice the water bloat coming on?

[felk87]

On a side note, when do you usually add an AI on cycle? Do you start right away to prevent it from on the onset? Or begin like week 3 or 4 when you notice the water bloat coming on?

You want to start it right away, you dont run ai just for bloating, you run it to control all estrogen negative side effects. These can be present with out bloat so its important to run an ai right from the start....unless is letro you would start.the letro 1-2 weeks before cycle to let it build up in your system.

[The Titan99]

I just realized its 25mg/ml which would last a whole lot longer then adex which is only 2.5mg/ml. Whats the dosage for stane?

12.5 EOD would probably be a good start... The only way to truly determine what's right for you is BW on cycle.

[JD3]

Im 165lbs, should I still stick with the 12.5mh eod