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  1. #1
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    Need feedback on next cycle - about to start

    Age 25
    Height 5’11
    Weight 176lbs
    BF not sure can see Abs only when flexing
    History:
    I did a sus250 cycle earlier last year (hit 210lb) but lost all my gains due to several factors which I have eliminated this time.
    I have bloodwork from pre cycle for reference.

    THE CYCLE
    Wk 1-8 test prop 600mg PW (85mg ED or 170mg EOD depending on circumstances)
    Wk 1-5 dbol 20mg ED
    Wk 4-8 Winny 50mg ED (injectable)
    Wk 2-8 HCG 250iu x2 PW (500iu last 3-4 shots)
    Wk 1-8 Aromasin 10mg ED
    PCT
    Nolva 40/20/20/20/20
    Clomid 75/50/50/25/25 (100 first few days)

    TRAINING PROGRAM
    Monday – Chest
    Tuesday – Back
    Wednesday – 40mins casual bikeride
    Thursday – Shoulders/Traps/Abs
    Friday – Arms
    Saturday – Legs
    Sunday – 40mins casual bikeride

    DIET
    Meal 1: Breakfast 06:00
    80g oats = 11g protein – 44g carbs – 7g fat = 310 cals
    1 cup skim Yogurt = 13g protein – 19g carbs – 0g fat = 133 cals
    2 scoops whey = 50g protein – 3g carbs – 2g fat = 120 cals
    Some berries or a banana. = 2g protein – 22g carbs – 0g fat = 100 cals
    5g fishoil + multi + berocca + milk thistle+ 2g Vitamin C. = 45 cals
    76g protein
    88g carbs
    14g fat
    710 cals


    Meal 2: 10:30
    300g steak = 60g protein – 0g carbs – 14g fat = 370 cals
    Sweet potato = 250g = 5g protein – 35g carbs – 0g fat = 160 cals
    Some salad
    10g glutamine
    65g protein
    35g carbs
    14g fat
    530 cals


    Meal 3: Pre WO 14:30
    Subway 6 inch double meat:
    bread = 8g protein - 31g carbs - 3g fat = 200 cal
    cheese = 2.4g protein - 3.5g fat - 0g carbs = 50 cal
    sauce = 0g protein - 10g fat - 0g carbs = 100 cal
    meat = 30g protein - 8g fat - 8g carbs - 220 cal
    40g protein
    40g carbs
    25g fat
    570 cals


    Meal 4: PWO 16:30
    2 scoops whey = 50g protein – 2g carbs – 1g fat = 200 cals
    1 scoop waxy maize carbs – 0g protein – 35g carbs – 0g fat – 120 cals
    300ml coconut water = 0g protein – 17g carbs – 1g fat = 80 cals
    2 rolls salmon sushi = 12g protein – 40g carbs – 15g fat = 350 cals
    62g protein
    94g carbs
    17g fat
    750 cals


    Meal 5: 19:30
    250g Salmon = 52g protein – 0g carbs – 34g fat = 510 cals
    Potato = 420g = 14g protein – 70g carbs – 0g fat = 390 cals
    Salad
    65g protein
    70g carbs
    34g fat
    900 cals


    Meal 6: 22:00
    250g Cottage Cheese
    BCAA mix
    30g protein
    7g carbs
    2g fat
    220 cals


    Pre Bed: 23:00
    2 scoops casein + 10g glutamine
    5g fishoil + multi + vit C
    50g protein
    7g fat
    250 cals


    TOTALS
    387g protein
    334g carbs
    111g fat
    3910 calories
    Last edited by kller; 02-12-2012 at 07:21 PM.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by kller View Post
    Age 25
    Height 5’11
    Weight 176lbs
    BF not sure can see Abs only when flexing
    History:
    I did a sus250 cycle earlier this year (hit 210lb) but lost all my gains due to several factors which I have eliminated this time.
    I have bloodwork from pre cycle for reference.
    Everything looks pretty well in order, it's just at 5'11 and 176 lbs. I question whether AAS is what you need at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrathMcGrath;589***6
    Everything looks pretty well in order, it's just at 5'11 and 176 lbs. I question whether AAS is what you need at this point.
    My thoughts aswell,why not run this diet for 6 months naturally?

    Im willing to bet you will make nice gains with this alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by kller View Post
    Age 25
    Height 5’11
    Weight 176lbs
    BF not sure can see Abs only when flexing
    History:
    I did a sus250 cycle earlier last year (hit 210lb) but lost all my gains due to several factors which I have eliminated this time.
    I have bloodwork from pre cycle for reference.

    THE CYCLE
    Wk 1-8 test prop 600mg PW (85mg ED or 170mg EOD depending on circumstances)
    Wk 1-5 dbol 20mg ED
    Wk 4-8 Winny 50mg ED (injectable)
    Wk 2-8 HCG 250iu x2 PW (500iu last 3-4 shots)
    Wk 1-8 Aromasin 10mg ED
    PCT
    Nolva 40/20/20/20/20
    Clomid 75/50/50/25/25 (100 first few days)
    I do agree with the others. Running the diet alone should get you good gains. with that said you don't need to inject the winny, you can drink it. I'd pick either dbol or winny and just run one, if your going more for a cutter i'd use the winny, if bulking the dbol. Just my opinion though.

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    I would personally build a stronger base before cycling. 5'11 and 176 is too light to cycle IMO.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by scotts View Post
    I would personally build a stronger base before cycling. 5'11 and 176 is too light to cycle IMO.
    Def. Not just IMO. That's a fact. I will push further and call BS on OP's diet.

  7. #7
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    I was 210lbs 6 months ago but i went backpacking in asia for 2 months and lost alot of my gains. Since then ive been cutting to prep for this cycle. Thats not my current diet, its the diet i plan to run while on and after cycle. If i ran that many cals naturally i would get fat.

    My current weight is completely carb depleted and holding no water weight. As soon as i start bulking again i will gain 8lbs within about a week easy.

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